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Do I just suck it up and let her stay?

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Decaffstilltastesweird · 16/06/2017 11:47

Such a long story, but a close relative of mine, let's call her Amanda, has asked to come and stay for the weekend soon. She has a course she wants to attend for her hobby.

I don't want Amanda to stay. She has been behaving badly for years now; being unpleasant to other family members, flying off in rages, cutting out most of the family other than me and one aunt plus the aunt's dc, blocking their phone numbers etc. I've also heard she tried to physically attack another family member but I wasn't there so it's all very third hand info.

I find her being in my house awkward - it feels awkward and a bit stressful. Amanda has been so unkind at points to other members of my family, that I really would rather avoid her. But I also don't want to fall out with her entirely iyswim?

I've already said that we might not be able to accommodate her as we've been invited to another relative's bday. Amanda was invited too, but has declined saying (lying) she will be abroad. This makes things even more awkward as Amanda has said she can't make the other relative's party and now wants to stay with us. I don't want to hide that Amanda is staying with us from other relatives or make it look as if we are both making excuses for not coming iyswim; we now don't think we can make the other relative's party. We can't find anywhere nearby to stay, (all hotels are fully booked in the area - it's a 3 hour drive each way).

I am also pregnant, which Amanda doesn't know yet. We won't have had our first scan by the time she wants to stay, so we don't want to tell anyone. I'll have to find excuses for randomly gagging and going to bed at 9 each night, which I could do without.

What to do? Let her stay and suck it up, or say it isn't convenient? Advice much appreciated.

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nina2b · 16/06/2017 12:32

She has been horrible to others in your family. Don't worry about telling her you do not want her to visit. You reap what you sow and all that.

People like that control others - either by bullying them as you have described or by putting you in awkward situations such as the one you in which you find yourself.

Don't make excuses. Just say it is not convenient.

Saracen · 16/06/2017 12:33

My favourite etiquette columnist recommends never giving an excuse for why you can't do the favour you've been asked. You might get found out, or she might find a way to overcome your obstacle (e.g. "Oh you are going to rellie's party? Great, then I can stay in your house and be no bother to you!") and besides why should you be in the position of having to lie?

She says that the easiest way to smooth things over without getting backed into a corner is this: "The 27th? We would have loved to have you stay, but I'm afraid it's just not possible. What a pity we didn't know sooner that you were coming this way! And it has been so long since we saw you. It would have been great to catch up with you. Such a shame. I do hope you can find somewhere to stay and that you have a lovely time doing your hobby." Babbling on like this feels less blunt than "No, it's not convenient" and enables you to soften the blow without feeling obliged to give excuses.

If Amanda presses you with "but why not?" then just go on and on about how much you would have enjoyed the chance to see her and how unfortunate it is that you can't help her out this time. Keep repeating.

TheMysteriousJackelope · 16/06/2017 12:36

Expat's Sorry, we can't accommodate you. We have a lot on that weekend. is polite and true.

You may find a hotel cancellation to go to the relative's birthday and turn out to be going after all.

A normal person may find this disappointing or inconvenient but they would understand things don't always work out. If Amanda gets angry just tell her 'Yes, it's a shame, I have to go now as.......' the dinner's in the cat, the squirrels are attacking, anything you can think of, and hang up. She'll either get over it or die mad and I don't think you'd care much either way. Her reaction is really her choice at that point and the nastier she is the less you'll want her around.

It's a pity your DH made up with Amanda as it would have been handy for him to have been willing to be the bad guy and flat out said she is never staying with you again because of the way she treated him.

nina2b · 16/06/2017 12:37

Just say no. Don't go to any more trouble over this person. I really really do not understand why you want to be "friends" with her, in any case. People like that control you in all sorts of ways. Look. She's doing it right now. Do not give her any more head space.

paxillin · 16/06/2017 12:38

I agree with Saracen. Don't over explain, she will likely find "solutions" for you. A quick "Oh no, sorry, that doesn't work. It's a shame, it would have been lovely to see you. Another time."

Don't say "soon", either, she'll come the weekend after otherwise.

ProbablyMaybe · 16/06/2017 12:40

You sound so lovely OP. Amanda sounds vile and definitely someone you should keep at a distance.

Is it possible that using work being done in the house as your reason will mean that you will need to come up with another excuse at a future date though or is this weekend likely to be the only time she'll need you to put her up?

Very awkward for you and your family.

Hissy · 16/06/2017 12:43

'Sorry, not possible that weekend I'm afraid, too much on and house is upside down, Hope you're well'

Nowt more.

The more story you weave, the more you'll waver and it invites a manipulator to question you.

IF she comes back, then say, 'No, as I said, No Can do."

PersianCatLady · 16/06/2017 12:44

Stand up for yourself and say no.

StormTreader · 16/06/2017 12:44

The advice is not to JADE - Justify, Argue, Defend or Explain.

If you justify - "wed love to but we're having work done!", they can come back with "Oh thats fine, I dont mind a bit of mess."
If you stick to "Im sorry, its just not possible." then its a lot harder for them to steamroll over you.

TheClacksAreDown · 16/06/2017 12:45

Give no excuse. Because she may well try and pick through it as to why she can still come

We are away - oh I can stay on your empty house

We are having work done - I will be no trouble, just work around me

Etc etc

Apairofsparklingeyes · 16/06/2017 12:49

Tell her that you are ill with an upset stomach. It's partly true because of the pregnancy making you feel exhausted and unwell.

Ask yourself will it really be so terrible if she takes offence and decides not to speak to you again? I'd say you shouldn't worry too much about her because she clearly doesn't care about anyone except herself.

Fluffypinkpyjamas · 16/06/2017 12:54

I will NEVER understand these dilemmas. It is your house. Say no. No explanation, just no. If she pushes the issue, tell her what you have told us.

humblesims · 16/06/2017 12:57

I agree with Saracen You dont need to make or give an excuse for not having her stay. It doesnt make you a bad or mean person. You can just say No its not convenient and leave it at that. What she does with that is up to her and no reflection on you. You are in early (and unannounced) pregnancy; that is a perfectly good reason to say No.

Decaffstilltastesweird · 16/06/2017 13:01

I honestly don't know why I'm being a bit feeble about it. Family ties and all that. If it was a friend rather than a relative, I'd have no problem saying no.

I'm sure she'll get over it. I'll be polite, but just say no.

Thanks all for input Flowers.

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slothqueen · 16/06/2017 13:06

Just say no. My sister in law is like this, the last time she asked after being so spectacularly rude to us the time she stayed last I just messaged back saying "no, sorry. I find having people to stay very stressful and there isn't room at the moment because of x,y and z. Please ask other relative".
I now just stand firm. She was horrendously rude though.

rollonthesummer · 16/06/2017 13:06

You say that you know she wants to come and stay on this weekend-how do you know this this? Did she ask you? How-phone/email? What did you say at the time?

Decaffstilltastesweird · 16/06/2017 13:10

summer

She asked by text. I said "that's the weekend of x's birthday party, so we might be going to that". She has since phoned and asked me to confirm by a certain date if we're going to the party. She's booked a b&b closer to her training venue which she said she can cancel if we decide we can host her.

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SweetLuck · 16/06/2017 13:14

Right, well she's sorted then. You don't even need to feel guilty.

paxillin · 16/06/2017 13:18

The advice is not to JADE - Justify, Argue, Defend or Explain.

I have learnt this the hard way. I wish I'd known this aged 20.

I remember not long ago emailing my boss's boss that I am very sorry, I wasn't able to attend a meeting. Answer: thank you for letting me know. My colleague had a more pressing reason than I did and emailed the boss's boss explaining this and got a major bollocking for badly organising her week.

Ever since then, brief, polite, no justification or explanation. Always add you would have loved to come/ host/ meet.

PersianCatLady · 16/06/2017 14:10

The advice is not to JADE - Justify, Argue, Defend or Explain
That is a really good piece of advice and I would like to thank StormTreader for posting that because it is really going to help me.

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