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The world is flat

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BrightOranges · 12/06/2017 11:07

I learnt today that there are 'flat earthers' who seriously believe the conspiracy theories of a flat planet rather than a spherical one.
AIBU to think you can't fix stupid? Or is that too harsh?

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IloveBanff · 12/06/2017 13:21

Sorry, the YT link above is to the spirit level experiment.

DJBaggySmalls · 12/06/2017 13:22

Spirit level on a plane guy was amazing. 'Realists' (splort) think all the worlds pilots and scientists are in on it.

'YouTuber D Marble flew from North Carolina to Seattle to see if the pilot would dip the nose of the plane to “compensate for curvature”.''

Morphene · 12/06/2017 13:24

Well you can laugh away at the dumb flat earthers by my 5 yo DD would like to point out the flaw in the argument that things would fall of the edge of a flat earth.

As she said it "but that's wrong...things are pulled down by gravity....toward the centre of the planet. It doesn't matter if the planet is flat, you are still pulled to the centre. If you can walk over the edge you will just end up walking on the underneath. The only difference between a ball and a flat planet is how sharp the edges are."

Presumably this is wear Australia is...on the underside of the disk.

alltouchedout · 12/06/2017 13:25

I had a proper argument with DH around Xmas time about this. I came home lightly pissed from a work do, he tried to get me interested in the flat earth shite he'd been reading that night, he got offended when I was scornful, I got offended that he might think I would be anything else and then really annoyed that he wasn't also completely scornful, he tried to psuedo science me, I shouted drunkenly. Lesson: flat earth theory threatens marital harmony, avoid avoid avoid.

Morphene · 12/06/2017 13:25

jeez could I have put in more typos?

VestalVirgin · 12/06/2017 13:27

How would he notice that the pilot dips the nose of the plane?

If the pilot stays in the exact same distance to the earth surface, he wouldn't notice at all!

He would only notice if the pilot just flew in a straight line, as that would take the plane higher and higher above surface level.

(But then he could attribute that to intent on the pilot's part.)

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 12/06/2017 13:28

I just have to introduce you to this smasher:
www.creationevidence.org/

It's even more batshit crazy in person :)

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 12/06/2017 13:31

Here you go....
Man takes level on plane makes total pratt of himself

The comments underneath are brilliant!

Lunagirl · 12/06/2017 13:34

There are two crazies on the current series of Big brother that believe the earth is flat! There's nothing you can say to these kinds of stupid. I've not heard of the Australia one... Omg! Bonkers.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/06/2017 13:35

Morphene Grin ah, so the conspiracy is to guard the privacy of the underside, which I will guess is inhabited by our lizardy overlords.

Back on our lovely oblate spheroid real world, at last something good in a newspaper - there's an article about birds evolving in cities, and a good editorial which hopefully I can link to:www.thetimes.co.uk/article/darwins-idea-rnn6rg0hw?shareToken=ee6cb3e65473deb314135787e06924d5

Kokusai · 12/06/2017 13:36

@alltouchedout

I'm not sure 'flat earth theory' is dangerous to marital harmony but being married to someone stupid enough to believe in it would be!

NeverEverAnythingEver · 12/06/2017 13:37

"The only difference between a ball and a flat planet is how sharp the edges are."

That would be why they have to post guards at the edges, to stop people cutting themselves.

Maybe the earth is a Mobius strip? Has anyone proposed that? Then you get to be flat, and not have the other side.

WellThatSucks · 12/06/2017 13:38

The following is a summing up of various points addressed during several actual conversations with a flat earther/prepper/conspiracy theorist I work with.

Well, it must be flat otherwise the chemtrails the govt is using to spray us all with poison* wouldn't work would they? The chems would just roll off the curves and fall into empty space below if it were round. Similarly rain, if Australia really existed how would it ever get wet when it rains - the water would have rolled off before it got to down under! You can do your own experiment if you don't believe me, hold a ball under a tap and watch the water roll off - the underneath of the ball never gets wet.

Only those who have been implanted with the mindcontrol microchips (this is what the vaccination program is a cover for) believe the Earth is round.

*Before anyone asks why the govt wants to poison us (there's always one) it's so we all get cancer and Big Pharma can force us to spend more and more money to get the cure - duh!

Let me add that we live in an area and work in an industry where many of the most advanced minds in the world are concentrated and from where just about every technological advance of the past 50 years has originated, so these people are not confined to Bumfuck Nowhere in the Bible Belt.

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 12/06/2017 13:44

Oh my fucking (non existent) god @WellThatSucks!

Such a mind boggling lack of basic science!

Literally 2 minutes on google would explain why it rains in fucking Australia (if it exists! Grin)- my 5 yr old understands the concept of gravity on a sphere ffs!

Sometimes I despair at humanity.
Hundreds of years of scientific endeavour and people still don't understand gravity ffs.

user1497253264 · 12/06/2017 13:47

I love the flat earth THEORY. Unless I see something with my own eyes then everything else is open to speculation. People like what they like and if it's not harmful then I don't care.

BlahBlahBlahEtc · 12/06/2017 13:52

My mum and brother are flat earthers. That's actually not the most insane thing they're throwing about lately either. I've given up lol

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 12/06/2017 13:56

But user can you see the proof of a round earth with your very own eyes.
If you go up a skyscraper, you will see the horizon curves around.

The suns rises and sets- then rises and sets on the other side of the world - where do you think it goes if it doesn't go round the earth?

Gravity??

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 12/06/2017 13:59

And I actually think this kind of thing is dangerous.

It is a rejection of fact, and the rejection of facts has very wide ranging consequences.

It is also denial in hundreds of years of science.

Why are these people determined to put human achievement back by 500 years? Why?

If someone can actually deny the evidence in front of their own eyes, it doesn't say much for that person really, sorry, harsh, but true.

BlahBlahBlahEtc · 12/06/2017 14:03

If you put 3 people at equal distances apart on the southern hemisphere and told them to look towards the south pole, they'd all be looking at the same star constellation. If the earth was flat that wouldnt be true.

Or ..as my brother would say ..

That's just what they want you to think.

Also.. gravity.

Also.. if they thought the earth was flat hundreds of years ago, why would someone convince every one it was round just to cover up the fact it's flat? IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE!

BlahBlahBlahEtc · 12/06/2017 14:04

I have pent up rage from hours of bullshit from my family Hmm Grin

AlletrixLeStrange · 12/06/2017 14:04

Right, this is getting weird now.
My DFiance isn't particularly bright and a couple of weeks ago while watching the sunset on holiday I said something about the earth being round and he said something like "well actually I think it's flat, there's a lot of evidence to suggest this and people not who believe it" and I'm like... ShockHmm
All I've seen since then is flat earth talk!

In summary, earth is round, DFiance should've paid more attention at school and less at YouTube.

WellThatSucks · 12/06/2017 14:16

Alletrix Run away, run away very fast! I'll hold him while you get a good headstart - the hills are that way.

Yes, things like doctored video evidence on You Tube have a lot to answer for in regards to fostering and encouraging the beliefs of these people. It's insidious. The person I mention tries to make us watch videos 'proving' the moon landings, 9/11 and Sandy Hook were hoaxes, he also believes Hillary Clinton is the leader of a paedophile ring operating out of a chain of pizza restaurants in Florida. Dinosaurs of course are a myth.

Wolfiefan · 12/06/2017 14:22

I thought everyone knew?
The world is flat. It sits on the back of four giant elephants which ride through space on the back of an even more gigantic turtle.
How do you not know this?! Confused

user1497253264 · 12/06/2017 14:25

If you can see a curve then you can see a curve, but you can't see beyond the curve? A curve is a curve not a circle just like a flat line doesn't mean something is a square. Anyway I said I enjoy the theory of it, what I believe doesn't really matter to anyone but me.

If you want to know why people would cover up why the earth might be flat then do some research? Make up your own mind?

You can find out about gravity by researching quantum mechanics and general relativity, and also what the word science actually means.
Its isn't stupid to question so called facts, it's intelligent to question things and research it. If you just accept what you are told, that is not intelligent.

Most videos on YouTube are complete shit and contradict each other for the sake of people who are not scientists trying to prove points and show examples of so called evidence they gathered from another source. I am not a scientist, but I appreciate that there are other theories other than the mainstream.

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 12/06/2017 14:33

user I have made up my own mind, thanks.

I have done extensive reading, my friend is a flat earther.

The only way you can deny the earth as a globe is if you think that all space agencies, governments, scientists, astronauts and others are all lying.

Why would all these people lie?

What possible reason is there to create a conspiracy with millions of people?

If the earth really is flat, why go to all that trouble, instead of just not putting it out there in the first place?

We could have just ignored people hundreds (and thousands) of years ago, and carried on arm in arm with the medieval religious fanatics who tried to stop round eaarth theories because it threatened their ideas that they were the most important people, and ruined someof their god shit.

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