to think that just because you vote for a party does not mean you support all their policies?

[Orlantina]

It seems that the current narrative is that people who vote for a party must support all their policies.

I voted Labour. I don't support Brexit but it's not the key issue for me. There were other more important issues to me and Brexit wasn't a vital issue. But it's being framed as people who voted Labour or Conservative supported Brexit because these parties support Brexit.

I am sure that some people who voted for other parties don't agree with all their policies.

If Brexit and Remaining was important to me, I would have voted Lib Dem.

I doubt anyone agrees with all the policies of a party. Including members of the party.

People will hopefully look at what all the parties are offering and then decide from there which one they feel is best for them.

YANBU at all.
There does seem a common perception that if you vote for any party then you must support everything they do. that has never been the case for me in all the years I've been voting. I think this election was the most difficult of all in trying to decide, because there were so many things I didn't agree with in each party. It was quite difficult to find a 'best fit' as I have usually managed in other years.

No of course not. I suspect most people pick, on balance the things that are most important to them and find a party that suits best.

For example, I voted SNP but their stance against Trident is actually far more important to me than independence.

Watching Newsnight. Farage is pissing me off because he is saying that 85% of people support Brexit because they voted for Brexit parties.

I wanted labour to win but i very strongly do not believe in free university for all.

Farage talking shit - nowt new there then!

For example, I voted SNP but their stance against Trident is actually far more important to me than independence

And the SNP might take it that everyone who votes for them supports independence....

I completely agree with you orlatina

I think there is a slight difference between voting for a party when you dont agree with some of their policies and this brexit bullshit

I thought the referendum was last june and voted accordingly

I did not vote based on the parties brexit view because i thought it was a done deal

However...some people are incredibly stupid i try and be polite but fuck me are they thick

It doesn't mean you support all their policies. But if you found any of their policies utterly repugnant, you wouldn't vote for them.

In you case this means you might be Remain but you don't care enough about it to vote another way.

Oh god is farage at it again

Oh god is farage at it again

Still trying to be relevant

I do care about remain

I voted remain

But i thought that vote in june meant that we were leaving the european union

I thought that was what the yes and no bit meant

I didnt realise that it was supposed to affect anything i crossed for the next eleventy billion years

I'm not anti-Independence Orla it's just not my key motivating factor.

Whatever politicians say in public, they know fine that not everyone who voted for them supports all their policies.

The Yes campaign was unsuccessful but Scots still voted for droves of SNP MSP and MPs at the Scottish Parliamentary Election and General Election in the elections immediately following.

I know plenty of No voters who vote SNP in preference to the other major parties.

I certainly disagree with Farage.

But it's being framed as people who voted Labour or Conservative supported Brexit because these parties support Brexit.

It was in their manifesto though so whilst you may not want it you have kind have concented to it happening.

Yes of course no one agrees with all parties policies but if I fundamently disagree with something then personally I wouldn't vote for that party.

What Farage should have said I guess is that 85% of people voted for parties that support Brexit.

And the SNP might take it that everyone who votes for them supports independence

Which they do. Hence Sturgeon going on about her mandate all the time.

I don't think I'd ever have been able to vote if I had to find a party/candidate I agreed with 100%. This time I agreed with practically nothing from the Tories (i was pleased they made some attempt at addressing the social care funding issues - ironic that it was that which sunk them in the end), some from Labour (though disagree on some of their big ones) & some from the Lib Dems (though they had zero chance of winning).

In the end I voted Lib Dems - because they are the only anti-Brexit party, I figured it was my last chance to show how pissed off I am about Brexit & how pissed off I am with Corbyn for his half-hearted remain campaign.

Under different circumstances (or candidates - if I lived in the ward next to ours I'd have voted for anyone to get their fucker MP out) even with the same policies I might've voted differently. I think that's why polling is so unreliable now - it is far more complicated that either just tribal loyalty or just policies.

It doesn't mean you support all their policies. But if you found any of their policies utterly repugnant, you wouldn't vote for them.

This.

I've been voting Green for a couple of years now, because I figured that if a nuclear power plant goes boom, nothing else really matters.

But if they started eroding women's rights, there's no way I'd vote for them. (And I will think very carefully about voting for a party who calls me a non-man)

I'm not a mad fan of Corbyn but I still voted Labour.....

Yes of course no one agrees with all parties policies but if I fundamently disagree with something then personally I wouldn't vote for that party

I suppose it comes down to your strength of feeling on that issue.

What Farage should have said I guess is that 85% of people voted for parties that support Brexit

But that's too complex a thought for Farage.

I think as well that this Parliament means that backbenchers can make a difference as we all know that not all MPs may agree with all of the manifesto and the Government direction.

I hope people take the chance to engage with their MPs.

Few people would vote if it meant agreeing with every single policy. Even MPs in the same party don't agree on everything.

I voted labour even though they have policies I don't agree with, because I couldn't in good conscience vote Conservative. I agree with more Labour policies than Conservative. And the Labour ones I dont agree with aren't harmful in the way some of the Tory policies are.

Of course no big political party was going to say they'd scrap Brexit. It would be to say they were happy to ignore democracy. I am a Remainer but accept that now it's been voted for it will happen and hope for a soft Brexit.

And the SNP might take it that everyone who votes for them supports independence....

Which they do. It is their only reason for existing.

Yes of course no one agrees with all parties policies but if I fundamently disagree with something then personally I wouldn't vote for that party

Thing is, there are some things in every party's policies I did fundamentally disagree with. I still felt if was the right thing to do, to vote for the 'overall least bad' rather than not voting.

I agree back

This is interesting isn't it. On all quizzes I'm supposedly closest to SNP. But I don't want an independent Scotland so would never vote for them. I doesn't matter what their other policies are like. The BNP might have a fantastic health policy but I'd never vote for them either for obvious reasons. I might disagree with Libdems on fracking, say, but if I agree then on Brexit and saving the Human Rights Act I'd likely vote for them despite fracking. Most remainers are more accepting that Brexit is inevitable so who's version of Britain is least bad overall is what people vote for.