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AIBU?

To think this is a dick thing to say by Dfriend's DH

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Evelight · 09/06/2017 13:56

Dfriend was recently awarded an annual prize by the national association of her discipline, for a research project she did.

Her department threw a champagne reception for her and other award winners (a few at different levels).

At the reception, I said to DH of Dfriend: "Congratulations for your wife's award". (he came up to me and it sounded like the right thing to say?)

He responded:
"Well it would have been very difficult for her to avoid winning it since she was the only one who completed a project [at her level], and they had to give the award to somebody"

He basically meant that since there were no other nominees for this annual prize, and she was the only one who completed a project in that discipline in that year, she kinda got the award by default.

I felt disappointed. I have not socialized much with this DH, mostly spending one-on-one time with Dfriend, but she always speaks very highly of him and they seem like a perfect, loving, supportive couples. She has also taken a "lower" sort of career to move where his career is flourishing. In a time where most my other friends, and myself, are all separated/divorced, they really seem as if they have a relationship to aspire to. I found myself thinking if this is the "bitchy" kind of comment this supposedly perfect husband says behind his wife's back (I had no idea before she had got the award because there was noone else to give it to that year), then honestly what hope is there for the rest of us?

My sister says I am reading too much in a throwaway comment and he was probably just tired from being at the reception, and not everything is about gender. I said "The only acceptable response when someone says Congratulations (for anything), is "thank you".

AIBU?

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Gingerbreadmam · 09/06/2017 15:13

it was a shit thing to say but i could quite easily stoop that low due to how dp often belittles me. no1 really knows what goes on behind closed doors.

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Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 09/06/2017 15:14

YABU. Perhaps it's true and for all you know it might be a bit of a good-natured joke between them. Perhaps meeting her friends whom he doesn't know well made him feel a bit awkward and it didn't come out as well as it might have. Perhaps he's on Dadsnet right now talking about how he fumbled at a really important night for his wife and is worried her friends hate him now. Perhaps.

Either way, I think it's a bit much for you to conclude from that non-conversation that he's a jerk, their marriage is a sham and there's no hope for the rest of us.

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Splandy · 09/06/2017 15:16

I'm imagining somebody saying something like that about my husband. I know I'd want to just say 'thank you' but it actually makes me cringe a little because I overthink things and never want to sound like I'm bragging. It's possible I would make a joke like that, if it was something we'd already laughed about between ourselves, and I thought the friend would realise that I'm joking rather than being horrible.

But, to be honest, my husband and I are not successful career types who would ever attend an event like this. I imagine that those people would already be more confident and less likely to make self deprecating jokes in these situations. So perhaps it's not comparable.

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Londonlovely · 09/06/2017 15:23

"London are we reading the same thread?" I don't know but the OP on this thread is totally over invested. Talking about her friends' "perfect husband" and discussing on a public forum, which the friend may well read and recognise herself in, how there were no other contenders for the award. and her husband is unsupportive. Odd to thread a thread on this, over invested.

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VladmirsPoutine · 09/06/2017 15:27

How did you manage to write Dfriend without having it autocorrected to just friend. (I suppose I've just done it now by turing off autocorrect).

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noenemee · 09/06/2017 15:30

he said something like she would earn more as a barista than at her current salary levels...



His comment was unpleasant and unnecessary.

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Evelight · 09/06/2017 15:35

I knew the "you must be jealous" remark would come up! honestly it feels even if you write something like "My friend stepped in dog poo today" ppl will come right back at you "You must be jealous!!"

As I said, I do look up to their relationship. In fact, one of things I find very refreshing about Dfriend is that she never bitches or complains about her DH- even the "you earn less than a barista" comment was in the context of how shitty the pay for recent social science grads is, rather than her bitching about him. On the contrary, she is always very proud of him!
The other thing, she already did the modesty dance when she invited me to the reception (oh, it's no biggie, only if you have time, I know with kids etc)- however she didn't mention the "by default" thing- I only heard that from her DH.

And I get we can be awkward around compliments etc, but surely a simple "congratulations" -it's not even really a compliment, - all you need to say is a simple "thank you" rather an explanation of how it's not really a big deal.

yeah, coming from a recent failed relationship and bitter divorce myself, and seeing a few ugly ones at close quarters, I have to remind myself not be a man-hating bitch, and #notallmen and then encounters like this put me back...

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Witchend · 09/06/2017 15:36

Sort of thing my df would say because he'd be terribly proud and trying not to show it as he was so proud. I wouldn't read too much into it-we knew he was proud, he just wasn't good at accepting compliments to himself or the family.

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Evelight · 09/06/2017 15:40

London, literally every single thread, if it was read by people who were involved in the situation described IRL, would be recognizable. Except the more political debate-type threads. All the threads which describe specific social situations would be recognizable to the people actually involved in that thread.

Why I chose to write about? I dunno? Why do anything which is not absolutely necessary? I am taking break, and it was kinda bugging me. And we hung out yesterday (just me and Dfriend), and she was her usual self about her DH, and it just came back to me.

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Londonlovely · 09/06/2017 15:41

But how is it any of your concern OP why your friend's husband says, seeing he isn't your husband.

And why should your friend tell you that there was only one contender, are you super close, do you tell each other everything?

"I do look up to their relationship" Really weird and over invested.

Thanks for going through a breakup that's really shitty. You should take care of yourself and not concern yourself with other people's relationships, whilst healing and getting over your break up.

No man or woman is perfect. And not all men are arses.

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Evelight · 09/06/2017 15:48

It's not my concern at all! I just found it annoying. Just like thousand of other things which happen which are not our immediate concern, but we still have a reaction towards them.

Why is looking up to somebody's relationship "weird and overinvested"? We spend a decent amount of time together and we talk about our relationships etc. Are there no people in your life whose relationship you look up to? I find your choice of words really weird.

I agree, not all men are arses! Except that lately, none seem to cross my path!

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UserThenLotsOfNumbers · 09/06/2017 15:49

Yanbu but what was his tone when making the comment, lighthearted or sneery?

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ScarlettFreestone · 09/06/2017 15:49

Not all men are arses London but by the OP's account this particular one need to brush up on his manners at the very least.

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AbbieLexie · 09/06/2017 15:53

Often NO awards will be awarded if the standard hasn't been met

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Ohyesiam · 09/06/2017 16:04

He sounds threatened to me, but would have to see his body language to see if it was.
Skin read this thread and people seem hostile, don't see why, it's a fair enough musing.

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MissionItsPossible · 09/06/2017 16:15

Lol at people saying the OP is over invested in the friends relationship and going into great detail why despite having never met said friends and the OP has Grin

But you do a little OP Blush could be awkward attempt at humour, his normal personality, lack of social decorum, they could have had a massive row and he was feeling particularly upset and mean, who knows. If someone witnessed an argument between you and your partner and they posted a thread on here about how they think you might be being put down a lot by your partner because they shouted at you would that be valid if they had witnessed about twenty seconds of it? No. And all this was was a comment .

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Londonlovely · 09/06/2017 16:19

Eve hopefully someone great will cross your path. Thanks

"Are there no people in your life whose relationship you look up to"

Of course not. I don't really think about other people's relationships, unless I know that a friend is unhappy and is going through a difficult time, in which case I will listen to them and support them if I can.

To me other people's relationships are private, none of my business and utterly uninteresting. I think about my friends themselves but I don't think about their work, their relationship or their children at any length, again unless they are telling me that they are going through a difficult or especially interesting time. The last thing i'd do is to find faults in my friends' relationships it just wouldn't occur to me. I'm baffled by it.

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Evelight · 09/06/2017 16:55

Well London, for someone claiming to find other people's relationships private and "utterly uninteresting", you certainly are displaying a LOT of interest in this particular relationship described here! As obvious from the title, this is a thread about a relationship! So what are you doing here at all? The lady doth protest too much, methinks!

i dunno, it was an attempt at humour, I suppose, he did smile (smirk?) when he said it, and I acknowledge I am recounting it through the lens of my own negative experiences. In general, he seems quite nice- I mean we have spent some time together as families, but not a lot (eg once a year, compared to weekly time Dfriend and I spend together) and he has never been put-downy or mean. But neither is he socially awkward or incompetent, iyswim.

I am not trying to arrive a general conclusion that he puts her down consistently and their marriage is a lie based on this one comment! Just that I found this comment, in light of her consistent support for him and his career, a bit disappointing and annoying.

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Londonlovely · 09/06/2017 17:06

Ok then

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kmc1111 · 09/06/2017 17:32

Eh, I've won a few big work related things by default. With some of them I could have literally not done anything and still won as someone has to win to keep the award relevant, and I was the only contender! The party's afterwards can be rather farcical so it's nice when there's some non-work friends or knowing work friends you can share your actual views on the whole thing with.

It's very possible it's been a sort of in joke with them for a while and your friends DH just didn't realise it wasn't presented to you quite the same way.

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Paninotogo · 09/06/2017 17:37

I also think it weird to congratulate him. What did he do? Own her?

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UserThenLotsOfNumbers · 09/06/2017 18:03

"i dunno, it was an attempt at humour, I suppose, he did smile (smirk?) when he said it, and I acknowledge I am recounting it through the lens of my own negative experiences."

I think you've answered your own question in this sentence OP.

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UserThenLotsOfNumbers · 09/06/2017 18:05

Sorry clicked post too soon. No you're not being unreasonable but are seeing the comment through your own experience as you said.

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NataliaOsipova · 10/06/2017 08:13

I can imagine my (very lovely) DH saying something like this. Because he doesn't do "gushing" and would hate that sort of social situation. He'd say something like that as an attempt at wry humour and would assume that any of my friends would see it in the same way. People's relationships are different and, even if you know people very well, it's hard to get a sense of exactly how they do or don't work.

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