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To vote lib dems when it seems pointless?

26 replies

Mamadothehump · 06/06/2017 12:28

Just that really?

Apologies for yet another political post!

They've not got a hope. The area I live in seems fairly evenly split between conservatives and labour, with conservatives taking the lead. I'm rather embarrassed to admit that I've never voted before Blush but it seems that my views match mostly with the lib dems so not sure what to do!!!

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TheNaze73 · 06/06/2017 12:33

You should vote exactly how you want to OP. You'll have had your say, regardless of the result. If everyone came out and voted, regardless of whether they thought people had a chance of winning, things could be marginally different.

WeakAndUnstable · 06/06/2017 12:34

YANBU. I'll be voting Lib Dem and am very happy to do so. I also don't consider it pointless at all.

Alittlepotofrosie · 06/06/2017 12:35

Vote however you want. I voted green last time which is obviously hopeless. This time im voting tactically in a tory safe seat.

NoLotteryWinYet · 06/06/2017 12:35

it's not a wasted vote - at least it demonstrates your support for a centre vote - I'm squarely in the middle - I'm voting tory this time as I'm in Scotland and the Scottish tories have been very effective against the SNP.

If nothing else, getting out and voting lib dem shows howmany potential votes there might be for centre parties even if first past the post punishes small parties.

ExplodedCloud · 06/06/2017 12:35

It's your vote! Most important thing is to use it. If you really do want to influence things though think about which of the parties with a real chance is closer to your views. But voting Lib Dem counts towards their overall figures for airtime next election.

Gottagetmoving · 06/06/2017 12:35

Vote for whoever has the most chance of getting rid of the conservatives.Grin
Conservatives are far removed from Lib Dem,..Labour isn't.

SoftSheen · 06/06/2017 12:35

I am a Lib Dem supporter. However, in your position I would tactically assign my vote to either the Conservative or the Labour candidate , depending on their individual qualities and likely effectiveness in promoting the interests of the local area.

There is no right or wrong answer as to who should vote for, however, please do use your vote!

hmcAsWas · 06/06/2017 12:35

Please vote anyway.

Many people live in safe seats with a big majority but nevertheless will still vote.

SunnySomer · 06/06/2017 12:36

Yes. Perhaps if more people did, there'd be less swinging from left to right and a more sensible and balanced middle road to proceed down

AntiHop · 06/06/2017 12:37

In your situation, if it's very close between labour and conservatives, I'd vote labour.

DuggeeHugs · 06/06/2017 12:39

YANBU to vote LD. It only seems pointless because lots of people keep shouting about the big two. By voting for who you want you're making your vote count. Voting for a second choice will only prop up the current system and give a skewed view of what the voting population thinks.

BernardsarenotalwaysSaints · 06/06/2017 12:43

I am. I live in a Tory stronghold, Lib Dems actually came closest to them in the last ge, Labour the one before, Lib Dems again the one before that. I really like my local mp so that's why I'm voting for them.

MirabelleTree · 06/06/2017 12:45

Basically it comes down to how you feel about either Conservatives or Labour getting into your area. If you are fine about either then vote Lib dem. If you have strong feelings about either Conservative or Labour then vote tactically.

DD is a new voter and had to face similar and has decided she feels so strongly about one party getting in she will vote tactically as has realised a vote here for labour is effectively a vote for conservative. Stupid system but if currently is what it is and you make your choice within that system.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 06/06/2017 12:46

W|e live in one of the safest Tory seats in the country. I will be voting Lib Dem. I do feel my vote doesn't count and wish we had a different systemSad

NoLotteryWinYet · 06/06/2017 12:47

funny how different people can look at the same facts and come up with different answers. I'd say the lib dems were closer to the tories as a 'business as usual' party than the wholesale state expansion Labour is running on.

TempsPerdu · 06/06/2017 12:57

YANBU. I'll be voting Lib Dem too, even though they have no hope in my area. If natural Lib Dem supporters continue to see a vote for them as 'wasted' and vote tactically instead, the LDs risk being totally wiped out and there'll be no moderate centrist party at all - so even fewer options than we already have.

Our democracy is broken. We desperately need electoral reform, but that looks unlikely to happen any time soon. In the meantime I'll be using my vote to register what I really want - not a tactical compromise.

NoLotteryWinYet · 06/06/2017 13:02

the Lib Dems should keep pushing on PR for another referendum - perhaps it's an idea that will appeal to more people in the future. I'd change my vote if we got another referendum on PR given current circumstances!

SomewhatIdiosyncratic · 06/06/2017 13:10

I live in a Conservative safe seat. I despise what the Conservatives have done to public services such as education in the last 7 years, but TBH a lot of that rot was established by the previous Labour government. I know that Corbyn's vision is very different, but I'm not fond of some of his more socialist ideology such as nationalising railways, and his party is largely of the same cohort as the Blair/ Brown years. I know its a separate issue but the local Labour dominated council are despicable and make Theresa May look like Lady Bountiful, and Dianne Abbot look thoughtful and well prepared!

So I'll stick with my own beliefs which are closest to the Lib Dems. That won't block the Conservative MP, but she is a decent constituency MP on a local level, so I'll have to swallow that pill.

The real problem is FPTP which rarely serves any interest other than Conservative or Labour.

ChasedByBees · 06/06/2017 13:13

I'm voting for lib dem even though it seems pointless as their funding is based on the votes received and as the only party who has opposed Brexit, I want that to be acknowledged.

manicinsomniac · 06/06/2017 13:27

YANBU

The Lib Dems aren't a smaller, less significant Labour Party. They're their own party with different views and priorities.

If your priority in this election is to get the conservatives out then vote for whichever party is 2nd in your constituency. In your (and the majority of people's) cases, that's Labour.

But if you're attracted to the Lib Dems because of either their stance on Brexit or their universal tax rise for public services policies then vote Lib Dem because the Labour party doesn't reflect your views on that.

I would vote Lib Dem in a heartbeat if I had a candidate to vote for.

Miniwookie · 06/06/2017 13:41

I live in a con/lab marginal and I would not vote Lib Dem, but that's because I feel so strongly that the Tories need to go and our Tory MP in particular is a twat. I would always vote tactically in a marginal seat, but would vote with my heart in a safe seat. It's your decision though OP. No vote is wasted.

caffeinestream · 06/06/2017 13:45

I live in Tim Farron's constituency and will be voting Lib Dem on Thursday.

Saucery · 06/06/2017 13:49

I'm voting Lib Dem ( already have, postal vote) because although I doubt the Conservativeswill be shifted in my area unless it's a big swing to Labour I don't like Labour policies or many of the Shadow Cabinet. Or Jeremy Corbyn. They are not the Labour I have voted for in the past and I can't tactically vote and have them represent me.

elevenclips · 06/06/2017 13:52

A party in the centre is the way forwards. Too much rabid right and loony left. Middle is the way to go. My dh voted Lib dem (postal). I'm probably not voting but if you want to vote Ld then you should.

carrie74 · 06/06/2017 14:03

I've already voted, LibDem for me, but my constituency is 55% Con majority with Lab at 31%, so I guess it's considered a wasted vote. Not to me, I voted for the party with which I feel most affinity.

Looking through stats of majorities in various constituencies though, I can understand a tactical vote if there's a party you particularly don't want. Dewsbury voted 46.7% con and 45.6% Lab last time. That's really divisive isn't it (smacks a bit of Brexit...).

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