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To not understand why we need so many new homes

265 replies

Pebbledash7 · 04/06/2017 20:52

Just as in the title really. I keep hearing about us building all these new houses but where are all the people currently living? There are tonnes of houses for sale in the property pages of our local paper.

I really dont understand why we can't make better use of what we have?

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Steffiegirl01 · 12/09/2017 16:17

Yes you are right Sunshine....

Steffiegirl01 · 12/09/2017 16:24

I agree with you Squishy. They've built some houses near our village and they are so small, not family size at all that now they're nearly all up for sale. Too expensive. But I do think building large houses isn't good either and as you say who the heck can afford them...

We don't need more housing we need less migration into the UK.

bigbluebus · 12/09/2017 16:26

I get frustrated that the LA seem to keep granting Planning Permission for the wrong sort of houses. Where I live, developers seem to keep building 4 bed detached houses. Wages/Salaries around here do not allow people to buy at the prices being asked. One builder built 5 houses near us - 3 x 4 bed detached and a pair of 3 bed semis. They sold the semis but 3 years later they have been unable to sell the detached and the builders themselves have rented them all out on short term leases. Now the LA have given Planning permission for another 13 houses (most of which are 4 bed detached) at the end of the same road. None of them are 'affordable' houses. And in our County town there are some huge housing developments going up and the builders seem to keep going back to get the number of affordable houses in the original planning consent REDUCED. They should be INCREASING the level of affordable houses FFS.

OhtoblazeswithElvira · 12/09/2017 16:34

Everything badbadbunny said.

The UK has lots of run-down housing that's left to crumble, while builders want to develop whatever fields are left - with squeezed-in 3-storey "townhouses" with bedrooms so tiny you can't fit in a wardrobe, all of it at pre-recession prices Angry

HoneyIshrunktheBiscuit · 12/09/2017 16:40

Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a mortgage on a crumbling older property that needs TLC.

Kursk · 12/09/2017 16:45

OP, your are right in one respect that all the empty and abandoned property around the country needs to be refurbished as a priority.

However unfortunately the UK is overpopulated, the countryside is going to disappear. The lifestyle that you want for your family is going to disappear unfortunately.

We made the decision to leave the UK in search of somewhere that could provide the lifestyle we wanted.

Kursk · 12/09/2017 16:47

I get frustrated that the LA seem to keep granting Planning Permission for the wrong sort of houses

That's because money changes hands behind closed doors

bigbluebus · 12/09/2017 17:40

Yes Kursk I suspect in some cases it does. But exactly what is the point in building houses that they can't sell?

graceyg · 12/09/2017 18:11

'I believe we should have part buy part rent schemes as i think they are a fab way of getting oeople into home ownership but im totally against increasing the amount of social housing."

You are stupid, part ownership schemes ARE classed as social housing.

Also part ownership schemes are often rubbish.

indigox · 12/09/2017 18:20

Clueless, stupid or a goady fucker.

HaudYerWheeshtBawbag · 12/09/2017 18:26

There's a massive huing shortage in the U.K., why don't you do some research before asking MNetters to do the work for you!

HaudYerWheeshtBawbag · 12/09/2017 18:26

*housing

expatinscotland · 12/09/2017 18:41

Where did GF go? This could become the new sort of Tyrion Lannister question. Instead of 'Where do whores go?' it could be 'Where do GFs go?'

LakieLady · 12/09/2017 18:44

We bought a nice house in a nice rural spot and ive just heard that affordable housing will go up on the fields around us. Our lifestyle will be compromised, our hard earned house worth less money & our little village school will go downhill.

Are you for real? Nothing like judging people before you even know who they are.

I think it will do you good to live in a more socially mixed area, it might help you get your head out of your arse.

Sayyouwill · 12/09/2017 18:55

@Pebbledash7 haven't read the full thread but just have to say that people like you are disgusting.

I don't own a house. Not for lack of bloody trying. The old houses need too much doing to them. I've had to back out of 5 houses now because of failed wall ties, damaged roof, rising damp, land shift, rotten floorboard etc. I've wasted so much money on surveys that I now can't afford a deposit. And I have a child.
We didn't get ourselves financially sound before we had him because we weren't planning on having him. Would you have rather I aborted to keep you happy?

You're so stuck up. Well done for having done something with your life, but some of us also did something but may not have bricks and mortar to show for it. I am have 2 degrees and a masters, I work in my industry because I love it.

LakieLady · 12/09/2017 18:57

Live in it, rent it out or sell it. Empty homes are an abomination.

Absolutely. People who own homes that are empty for more than a couple of years should be forced to pay 10x the annual council tax or lease them to the council to use to house families in need.

Bluntness100 · 12/09/2017 19:03

There are tonnes of houses for sale in the property pages of our local paper

I'm struggling with this, people are living in those houses. Unless they are empty, what is relevance of the sale? They will sell that one, buy another one and move into the new one and someone will move into their old one, in the overwhelming majority of cases it's just a daisy chain.

Ttbb · 12/09/2017 19:06

Flat sharing obviously.

peachgreen · 12/09/2017 19:15

These "we worked hard for what we have, why can't everyone else?" people like the OP drive me BANANAS. You don't think someone on minimum wage works hard? I promise you, I worked a hell of a lot harder when I worked in retail than I do now and there's no way I could have bought a house then. Now though, I have a good job that pays well, thanks to the privilege of my middle class upbringing (school in a good area, SAHM who helped me with homework, extra tuition when I needed it, financial support through university etc etc). And I don't have to work anywhere near as hard.

The vast majority of people in poverty work just as hard, if not harder, than those of us who are comfortably off. It is ignorant to believe that you've got where you've got through hard work alone and everyone else just isn't trying hard enough.

LakieLady · 12/09/2017 19:17

How about this for a plan? Goady fuckers who retire to houses with a lot land for growing veg/dogs/grandchildren could be forced into old people's homes as soon as they need care, and their houses could be used to house the homeless.

All these rich old fuckers living in big houses and having carers come in 4 times a day, that's that's not helping free up homes for hard-working but still too bloody poor to buy a house families.

ConciseandNice · 12/09/2017 19:32

I'm speechless. It's the worst of Great Britain in one bloody post. I bet most of those people in affordable housing work just as fucking hard as she does. I wish a plague of locusts on her house.

sushiwushi · 12/09/2017 19:39

OH and I can't get a mortgage. We can afford one and can get a deposit but with a slight chequered credit history no one will give us a mortgage. Bloody sucks arse.

Spangles1963 · 12/09/2017 19:43

I seriously cannot understand why anyone would need to ask this question nowadays! Have my first Biscuit.

sushiwushi · 12/09/2017 19:44

This may be a stupid question, but why do lenders make it so hard to get a mortgage if your credit history is not perfect or for some if they have a limited or no deposit?

Surely if they didn't pay they would get a evicted and lender would sell the house?

Snausage · 12/09/2017 19:53

It must be wonderful, living in your perfect little bubble, OP.

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