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To say no to being the family 'safety net'

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Tallblue · 02/06/2017 16:52

It would take forever to explain the complicated history of my family so I will be as succinct as possible.

I live overseas and have two small children. I don't work. DH works and we are comfortable but by no means 'rich'.

Back home in the U.K. I have a divorced DM and DF. Also a brother and a sister. All of us three siblings are in our 30's.

From the age of 16 I've had to be financially, emotionally and practically independent. I put myself through school, university and started a career with little support from anyone.

My mother was made redundant several years ago and despite best efforts has not been able to find work. She has just lost her house and moved into local authority accommodation. She manages as best she can within her budget.

My father is a gambler, has always been terrible with money. He lives alone, is retired and has a serious illness. The little money he receives in benefits is usually gambled away.

My brother is long term unemployed and in and out of trouble with the law.

My sister has never worked. Has two children and lives on benefits. Has long term mental health issues and has developed physical issues due to poor self care.

As the person who 'did well' and got away I feel an overwhelming sense of guilt and pressure. From the age of 16 when I started to earn money in a weekend job, through being a student and from there onwards, I've felt somehow responsible for the rest of my family. Over the years I've regularly been asked for money from all members of the family. In particular my father and sister, who both seem to share a total inability to deal with incoming money and outgoing expenses. Both regularly sell items to cash converters, buy items on credit from places like brighthouse and always have some kind of emergency loan ongoing with the benefits agency.

The most recent issue and reason for posting is yet another request for money from my sister today. Apparently her electric and gas both about to run out (its on a pay as you go meter) and bread, milk and essential supplies running low. She says she has no one else to ask.

I've said no. This is a never ending cycle. She contacts me, on the other side of the world as though I'm some kind of bank machine. I feel I have to finally be strong and draw a line somewhere. She is emotionally blackmailing me - how could I leave my niece and nephew without warmth and food etc. but this is always her approach and it's a recurring pattern.

I feel bad for saying no but I can't keep being responsible for her and her children.
AIBU for saying no?

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Ktown · 02/06/2017 20:01

I'd do an online order once every 6 months for your sister and say that's it. Useful stuff for the kids.
Money isn't the best answer.

Tallblue · 03/06/2017 08:43

Aye - I agree, it never lasts long...

To those who suggested online ordering, it could be a good option, I'll give it some thought. My worry is it might grow into a request for a full food shop every week!

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dingodon · 03/06/2017 09:31

Don't give her any more fucking money! Enough is enough. You really need to draw a line somewhere. What about your own family. You all had the same upbringing, they have made choices just like you. If they continue to choose to live this way why the hell should it be your responsibility to fund this?

So just in case I wasn't clear YANBU and NO NO NO to any more money. And fuck setting up standing orders/direct debits. She can get a bloody job.

665TheNeighbourOfTheBeast · 03/06/2017 09:47

theres another thread running on here somewhere about "when did you finally feel like a grown up" and the answers are almost universally some variant on "When I realized I was running my life without a safety net" - something your relatives are completly failing to do.
It may feel like you are helping these family members - but in reality - you aren't. They are not having to take responsibility for themselves, and you are in a co-dependent relationship with them, which is in fact enabling them to remain childlike and fail to take responsibility.
Stepping away from this would be much much healthier for all of you.

Frazzled2207 · 03/06/2017 10:16

Yanbu at all but it sounds like a very difficult situation. Must be very difficult for your dh too as I assume he works hard to provide for you and your kids, even if he rightly sees the money as "joint".

I too would be tempted to try and pay for specific rather than sending cash handouts. In particular sending clothes/shoes etc for your sister's children once in a while. But they are all adults as you say and in the circumstances I don't think it would be stop helping them completely.

Tallblue · 03/06/2017 10:29

Dingo - your post made me smile- straight to the point! I often wonder how I turned out so different to my siblings when we had the same upbringing. Sometimes I wonder if it would be easier to be like them and not know any different.

Frazzled - yes it's hard on DH. It's one thing when I had a good job and was earning my own money. Now any money I give is joint money. Hate is a strong word but he comes pretty close to hating my sister, I'm sure.

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ForalltheSaints · 03/06/2017 10:43

YANBU. It is summer and so if electric or gas run out no-one is going to freeze.

DisorderedAllsorts · 03/06/2017 10:53

Electricity isn't needed now to keep warm but will be needed to run the fridge etc. Just a thought but definitely don't cave into money required. An occasional online shop is fine but be wary of it turning into a regular thing.

I think all you can do is sign post her to agencies who can help her but I suspect that she's probably exhausted all these avenues. If she's got mh & physical difficulties, can she claim DLA for it? Again, throwing more money at the problem will make matters worse. It's a money management issue rather than,anything else.

Tallblue · 04/06/2017 18:15

Disordered - yes, she's exhausted all avenues. Been re-housed several times and this time was told it's her last chance. She constantly misses rent payments etc. Not sure what happens when the welfare agencies won't help anymore. I guess she'd become officially homeless. Of course, it would then all be my fault for not helping!

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