To think people should be aware and outraged by the Naylor Review

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This report which the Prime minister has openly said they will be using when dealing with the NHS. So, so worrying. Talks about selling off NHS assets. Why is this not high on the election debate?!

Couldn't agree more!
Hospitals will be ordered to sell their land to buy equipment that they NEED, then rent it back at ridiculous rates from offshore Tory donors. Hospitals that refuse get funding cuts!!
You can't make it up, everyone needs to know! She admitted it on BBC! I'll try to find link.
If people keep saying that she'll get a good Brexit deal and use the money for the NHS, this proves that she won't and she's going to sell it to her mates! Sell what taxpayers have paid for!!
(It makes me cross)

It's shocking, truly shocking but it's being hidden by TM saying Brexit and Strong a lot and people believing it.

PFI

I agree. It's awful. Openly recommends selling off NHS assets and TM has agreed to it. It should be higher on media and election agenda.
I'm guessing that with Jeremy Hunt already known to have co-authored a paper on privatising NHS and various Tories having links to private healthcare businesses, along with all the cuts and sell offs already made, it's not really news that the NHS is for sale

Couldn't agree more here too! I'm sick of hearing about the NHS being safe in Tory hands. Is. It. Bollocks. I send to work in the NHS and it saddens me what's happening to it, meanwhile people are harping on about which MP forgot which figures... why isn't this in the news? WHY?

she's going to sell it to her mates!

you base that ridiculous comment on what?

Can we start to spread the word please? I'm actually truelly worried this is being overlooked. Its a sneaky ass way to privatisation 😔 If you can't afford health insurance you really need to read up on this before next weeks vote

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MN- when are you going to get an edit function?

www.gov.uk/government/publications/nhs-property-and-estates-naylor-review

Stilldrivingmebonkers this is the government paper. I can get you the interview on it too where she said they'd be using this formula.

YANBU

Has anyone here actually read the (Independent) report? Or just the left wing press?

There are many crap little Victorian cottage hospitals which aren't running lists at full capacity, have hundreds of thousands in backlog maintenance costs and are not fit for purpose. The NHS also has a huge amount of disused office space which is going to waste.

If you can maintain equivalent services in better purpose built for modern healthcare buildings and make money (which remains within the NHS) by selling of the dilapidated old wrecks then I think that's great.

The Naylor report also talks about the need for significant capital investment. Is that also something people are against?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-naylor-review-nhs-privatisation-sell-off-property-developers-a7766486.html

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1535707286470433&id=404716342902872

If people paid a bit more in tax surely this wouldn't be an issue. It feels like we're being told under the tories there will be low taxes, except what they are failing to mention is that we'll all have to stump up for health insurance which can be very costly indeed 😯

So people should pay more tax so the NHS can hold onto old buildings which they can't use properly?

Once a site isn't fit for purpose and can't be accredited for delivering clinical services anymore, what do you think should happen to it?

What about half empty offices? Better to consolidate back office staff in one place and sell of the unused buildings surely?

More tax for clinical services, absolutely. On board with that. More tax to sink into money pit buildings which aren't suitable...no thanks.

Many crap little cottage hospitals?
Oh well, if you think hospitals to help rehabilitation, so that people can not bed block in acute wards where they don't need to be, are crap. Well , glad you've sorted that out for us.

That's all OK then .NHS safe in their hands? Many leading Conservative MPs want it privatised. They don't use it, after all

Surely the land they sit on is worth more? By all means build new facilities, but why would you pawn in the family silver to have to buy it back at exorbitant rates???

You omitted the key word in my sentance there, which was "Victorian".

There are many wonderful community hospitals delivering care people need, supporting them to be out of the acute hospitals quicker, providing palliative care, stroke rehab etc etc. Vital resource for community care.

There are many others in which you can't regulate the heat properly because of Victorian windows, infection risk because of wooden floors, corridors so tight you can't get the trolleys round...I stand by calling them crap and wouldn't want to be treated in one. If you can sell one off to be offices/flats and use the money to improve services in another purpise built building then that sounds good to me.

STPs are being pushed through silently and nobody seems to,realise there will be 'rationalisation' of healthcare with a reduction in hospital beds, closure of EDs and maternity units and centralisation of services.

But the naylor report is primarily suggesting investment in current facilities, not selling buildings cheap and buying new ones.

Both the Nuffield Trust and the Kings Fund are behind this. I trust their independence and judgement WAY more than some bloke off Facebook with an agenda.

The report states that hospitals that do not sell their assets will not be able to access funding and investment and will be charged a 3.5% levy. So it's not just aimed at 'old victorian hospitals'

Cinderella its all in the report. A government report. Yes people on facebook are talking about it. Doesn't mean they are wrong because they are on fb.

I would argue that a lot of the acute trusts have a lot of Victorian buildings on their estates they don't use properly.

Why shouldn't the NHS use the land they own as efficiently as possible? I genuinely don't understand that line of thinking.

Have you read the kings fund opinion on it?

Just looked into it. Have to say it really isn't instilling any faith. Looks like they want to increase NI to pay for it, has that been highlighted? So to get this straight, they want to sell off land to pay for other bits of the NHS (personally see this as short sighted). Then raise NI for the older generation to pay for their social care? Eh is this not a stealth tax?