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To think there is no such thing as childrens food

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Willowtree7 · 31/05/2017 19:15

I believe children do not need "childrens food" just smaller versions of... well... just food. It makes me so sad to think that children have fish fingers and chips for dinner followed by a petit filous yoghurt and washed down with squash because that's what we have been led to believe children should have.

I'm totally in favour of an ice cream on a hot day and the odd treat but not coco pops or cheerios for breakfast. It's like people recognise you shouldn't give too many sweets but beyond that don't see nutritional value in meals.

Our diet affects our learning, concentration and health. It's the most vital thing we all need to get right and yet we feed children processed rubbish that is so bland it needs sugary ketchup to give it flavour and this is considered normal.

Before anyone says it's about money and crap food is cheaper, i think A) that's a vop out for people that buy it and B) that's not the main reason people feed children poor diets. It's about lack of understanding of what food is. People that feed children wholemeal bread, humous and porridge are considered to be the unusual ones on some circles!! How did we get to this?

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Feckitall · 31/05/2017 21:22

This has made me smile..

DGM firmly believed in childrens' meals..
mince and potatoes
sausages and boiled potatoes
veg boiled to a pulp to accompany all meals
cold meat (left over from roast) boiled potato, beetroot and veg
fried fish and..you guessed it.. potatoes..sliced and fried in lard in a pan
As we got older (teens) she added half a teaspoon of curry powder to the mince..(was getting adventurous) Grin

She firmly believed that children should eat bland flavours and meat/fish potatoes and veg..and that a cousin who had behavioural issues and food intolerances was caused by being fed rubbishy(as we know it) food and food like chilli/curry with strong flavours.. Hmm

I was 20 before I ate a curry...

Although having DC myself (DS1 is a chef!)made me expand our diets I do wonder what the effect on some of these 'childrens' foods is on behaviour and development. (not saying it is caused by the way...!!!)

To those who say their children are fussy and wont touch other foods, what if those foods weren't an option..what would the DC eat?

early30smum · 31/05/2017 21:26

Also I think it's totally fair enough for kids to have foods they don't like and therefore are not expected to eat- as long as it's not a whole food group. So my youngest hates yogurt/custard/rice pudding etc but likes cheese and milk. and ice cream lots of my friends are astonished I don't try to encourage him to eat yogurt- but why would I?

PrinceAli · 31/05/2017 21:29

Well thank you for your mini essay on the benefits of food.

PrinceAli · 31/05/2017 21:31

@feckitall did she think all of th children of Asia and South America have behavioural issues! ShockGrin

Feckitall · 31/05/2017 21:48

Exactly prince .. Grin but I think she imagined they left out any flavour for dc!

hibbledobble · 31/05/2017 21:54

I agree with you totally op. I feed my children healthy grown up good. Children won't starve if they are only offered healthy food.

We sit at the table and my children can either eat the food I serve or not. I don't force them to eat. They do get there idea that there is no alternative and usually eat what is provided.

It's all about good eating habits. If kids know that if they refuse healthy food they will get chips, then of course they will refuse.

Dishwashersaurous · 31/05/2017 21:58

What's wrong with cheerios

YoloSwaggins · 31/05/2017 21:58

I agree.

My family always cooked 1 meal for all of us. None of this 2-separate-dinners bollocks. Neither me or my brother ended up "fussy".

Kids food in restaurants is awful - just junk food.

YoloSwaggins · 31/05/2017 22:00

We sit at the table and my children can either eat the food I serve or not. I don't force them to eat. They do get there idea that there is no alternative and usually eat what is provided.

Exactly - this whole "but he will either eat chicken nuggets or nothing, I don't want him to starve!": after being fussy and missing 1 meal, I guarantee your kid will be hungry enough to eat whatever you serve at the next one. And from then on.

Patriciathestripper1 · 31/05/2017 22:03

Fish fingers
Chicken nuggetd
Sausage and chips
Burgers...,..
All crappy kids food

hibbledobble · 31/05/2017 22:04

dish they are full of sugar. They should really be marketed as a treat rather than as a breakfast cereal.

BillSykesDog · 31/05/2017 22:07

Oh OP are you going to tell us about your bag of porridge that lasts for months and your chicken that feeds a family of four for a fortnight?

How original....nobody's ever tried that before...

FuzzyPillow · 31/05/2017 22:12

YES OP. Couldn't agree more. I find it perplexing that the Brits and Americans (and I'm sure others) have this bizarre category of junk food deemed acceptable for kids. And then people wonder why they won't eat veg!!?

Look at the French - no such thing as kids food. Children at nursery will be eating 4 course meals including everything adults would - oysters, vegetable starters, strong cheeses, the works.

  • Yes, I understand some DC have sensory issues with food. My ASD DC does and spent a few years eating only beige foods.
SuperBeagle · 31/05/2017 22:13

I agree with the OP.

50 years ago it would've been unheard of for children to get an individual meal, different from the rest of the family.

I know which foods mine do and don't like (two don't like mushrooms, for example), and I work around that. But I don't make them separate meals. That doesn't mean we have no junk food in our house, because we do, but they get what they're given at meal times (whatever it is). None of my children are picky.

Also, I was a picky eater as a child. Not terrible, but still somewhat a pain in the ass. It absolutely was because the pickiness was indulged. I distinctly remember kicking off about something and my mother/grandmother/whoever giving in instantly. I was determined not to do the same for my children.

YoloSwaggins · 31/05/2017 22:15

Kids' cereals are basically sugar. Most are 1/3 sugar by weight.

You literally may as well be feeding your kids biscuits for breakfast.

Huldra · 31/05/2017 22:20

I remember going to France 35 years ago and many restaurants had a childs menu:
Spag Bol
Steak hache and fries
Jambon blanc and fries
Jambon rouge and fries
That was in none tourist areas too. They've expanded a little to include chicken nuggets now Grin

Oysterbabe · 31/05/2017 22:24

I'm going to guess that you don't have children. I agree with you to a certain extent but it's very easy to be a perfect parent before you are one. I'm lucky in that my DD is a good eater and we've always just given her what we have. I have a neice who will absolutely refuse to eat anything that isn't processed and beige. Her sister, who was raised the same, will eat anything but she just won't. I can see that if I was her mum I'd just be happy to get a reasonable meal down her even if it's not nutritionally ideal. Most people are doing their best.

kierenthecommunity · 31/05/2017 22:32

I feed my children healthy grown up food

when are they organising a parade for you? Wink

i make my son freezer crap all the time. I don't want to eat at 5.30pm every night otherwise he could eat what we were having (although we do eat together sometimes) so I'm hardly going to cook him something that time consuming just for him when fish fingers take 12 minutes

He does have a lot of veg though, so with his frozen pizza tonight he had cherry tomatoes, cucumber, peppers and sweetcorn.

I actually don't care if that causes people to sneer. you paddle your canoe, i'll paddle mine

BillSykesDog · 31/05/2017 22:33

Huldra that is true. Just been and looked on the website for several French restaurant chains and they all do burgers, fish fingers and chicken nuggets with ice cream to follow.

FuzzyPillow · 31/05/2017 22:40

Hilldra, BillSykes

I think that is the American influence on French culture, and is more common in tourist areas and big cities but of course is spreading everywhere. To generalise though, it's true that the French don't believe in special children's food.

I will see if I can find a French nursery menu online. I think you'd find it interesting.

OwlinaTree · 31/05/2017 22:41

French supermarkets are full of chocolate breakfast cereals, just like UK ones.

kierenthecommunity · 31/05/2017 22:42

Huldra that is true. Just been and looked on the website for several French restaurant chains and they all do burgers, fish fingers and chicken nuggets with ice cream to follow.

and they have Captain Iglo in France, who is know as Captain Birdseye here. only I imagine their convenience foods are moules and brie, right, becuse no one in the whole of France eats any crap and they all sit round the table as a family? Hmm

OwlinaTree · 31/05/2017 22:42

My ds's nursery doesn't serve nuggets and fish fingers, that's in the uk.

FuzzyPillow · 31/05/2017 22:49

French nursery menu. These are set by the local 'council'. The DC have 4 courses!

www.caissedesecoles20.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2017.05_Menus-daffichage-Mai-VALIDES3.pdf

I think it's very different from the fare offered by U.K. nurseries.

OwlinaTree · 31/05/2017 22:55

Sorry you'll have to put it into Google translate!