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41 replies

ConfusedLlama · 31/05/2017 10:50

My friend (although this term is becoming slightly frayed) has sub let a room from me for coming up to 6 years now (with a 6 month break). He moved out for 6 months with his then GF. Within this time I became a single parent and the LL, who is a family friend, waved the money I would have been getting from friend as he was aware I couldn't afford it (I was and am still very greatful for him doing this) until I could find someone else to rent the room or afford the money.

Friend's relationship broke down and he asked to move back in. I asked that he rented directly off of LL this time so that I would not be accountable if he didn't pay, however he would pay bill money to me as I paid the bills.

Everything was fine and rent was on time, bill money on time until friend unexpectedly quit his job, I won't go into details but he was accused of something he didn't do and in retaliation he quit.

This was a year and a half ago. Since this time, he has repeatedly lied to myself, DP, LL and his parents about having jobs that he doesn't have. Jobs that originally sounded to good to be true, then progressed to lies about jobs at fast food places. He never leaves the sofa (He has also ruined the cushions on my brand new sofas in the space of 2 months). There is no evidence of him applying for jobs, and both me and DP have written multiple CV's for different job types, written covering letters, even gone as far as applying for jobs for him...he has an interview and nothing comes of it. He sits around and plays his game console all day on the electricity I'm paying for.

DP had a very heart to heart talk with him recently. Where he admitted he though LL should have kicked him out by now because he hasn't paid any rent in over a year, I'd been told his Dad was paying his rent. LL had asked him in return to keep the garden tidy and help us out for paying for his food and bills. He doesn't do this, DP, myself and my Dad have been looking after the garden.

At first I felt sorry for him, as he's a very shy person and that he wasn't having great luck. I've tried to help as much as I can but I work Full time, I have a 7 year old DD and I'm 19 weeks PG.

WIBU to send a message to the LL saying something along the lines of "it's come to our attention that your not being payed any rent from friend. DP and I wanted you to know that we would be more than happy to cover the full rent should you have to part ways with friend"?

Oh wow that's long...Thank you if you reached the bottom of the endless thread of doom!

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Maudlinmaud · 31/05/2017 11:53

I wouldn't feel guilty about your reasons for wanting him out. He could make a huge effort now by picking up subtle signs but it's too little too late imho. Where he goes is not really your problem, he has family to step in to help. I sound so heartless saying that and I'm not.

PersianCatLady · 31/05/2017 11:55

Who is this guy to you?

Why are you letting him take the piss out of you??

Sunnyshores · 31/05/2017 11:57

Its not really lls mess to sort out, Im amazed he has been so tolerant and easy going about the rent and setting up new (probably illegal) tenancies to suit you all.

You need to speak to 'friend' and ask him to move out - you could start politely and say you now need more room with the extra baby, or time with DP alone. If that doesnt work, tell him the truth.

ConfusedLlama · 31/05/2017 11:59

We've been friends for so long I can't help care about him, the same for DP we've really tried to help him. I personally felt very betrayed by the lies and it was a gamechnger for me, as it was a huge betrayal of trust.

I've sent the landlord as message basically what I put and adding that the extra room would be useful for us.

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PeanutButterJellyTimeforTea · 31/05/2017 12:02

He doesn't care about you. He's taking you for a mug.

PersianCatLady · 31/05/2017 12:03

We've been friends for so long I can't help care about him
Sweetheart, he isn't showing you the same kindness that you have shown him for a long time.

He needs to go, now!!

ConfusedLlama · 31/05/2017 12:07

I think deep down, I know he's not really been a good friend at all in the past year.

I will wait to hear back from our LL, who is a very kind and patient man, but I can tell he's also getting to the end of his tether.

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QueenArseClangers · 31/05/2017 12:16

What the fuck did this sponger have to say after wrecking your sofa?

ConfusedLlama · 31/05/2017 13:30

He did apologise. I said he needed to plump the cushions or rotate them if he was going to sit on them for that length of time in one "sitting". He said he didn't realise how bad they looked.

They were only cheap sofas but they were still only a month old and I wasn't expecting one to look like that after only a month.

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PersianCatLady · 31/05/2017 14:45

I said he needed to plump the cushions or rotate them if he was going to sit on them for that length of time in one "sitting"
Sorry I thought you said that he had ruined your sofa, now you are saying that you just needed to plump the cushions.

Why are you minimising to make this guy not sound so bad??

ConfusedLlama · 31/05/2017 15:58

He has ruin the sofa cushions, as in they are now completely warped and no amount of plumping is going to save them. I'm about it I've told him I'm annoyed about it.

He sits crossed legged slumped on the sofa, pushing the cushion over the edge which then causes the back cushion to sort of fold in half. I am in no way minimising this...it really fucks me off.

As did the constant swapping of cupboards in the kitchen. He gets bored and changes the kitchen round (the plates will be where the pasta is, the mugs will have switched places with the bowls) little things that are really jarring. It's made me mad just thinking about it!

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PersianCatLady · 31/05/2017 16:43

It's made me mad just thinking about it!
He needs to go.

I wouldn't put up with that sort of behaviour from a family member let alone a freeloader.

ConfusedLlama · 31/05/2017 19:38

Just had a call from LL. He agreed that this had gone on far too long but that he didn't want to put us in a difficult position but he had said to Friend a couple of months ago that if he didn't pay rent he would have to think seriously about kicking him out.

LL is going to ring him tomorrow to say that he has had enough time, that LL will give him 2 weeks to vacate the property. He was really disappointed to hear Friend still didn't have a job as LL had been told he had a job and was waiting for contracts. He's not. He has said nothing of this.

DP and I will have to be firm with him as I'm pretty sure that he going to ask us to stay if were paying the whole rent. He will be getting a firm no from us.

Thankyou for all your advice. I definitely needed to see he has not been the friend I thought he was.

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aginghippy · 31/05/2017 19:48

I'm not surprised to hear he has also been lying to the LL.

I hope he gets the message and goes without too much fuss.

ConfusedLlama · 31/05/2017 20:06

Me too, aginghippy. It's upsetting as he's been like an uncle to my DD but I genuinely think he's got himself in a rut and now is just seeing how long he can ride along carefree for.

Today he told us he'd "been productive" and applied for a dozen jobs...hes been lying on the sofa watching YouTube videos all day. Laptop hasn't been out once.

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Shootfirstaskquestionslater · 31/05/2017 21:40

Am glad you got in touch with your LL it's time for the piss taking man child free loader to go you've all given him enough chances and time to get his act together and he hasn't.

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