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Me and dp have had a huge fight and I'm just so tired

42 replies

Bigblug · 24/05/2017 22:11

It's the same old recycled arguments that happen all the time but nothing ever changes. We're in a deadlock of who's the worst person and deflection, of not listening to each other's point of views.

One of my issue when we argue is that he takes a very 'do as I say not as I do' attitude but doesn't see it that way. For example, sometimes I'll forget to clean the hairs out of the bath when I've shaved. Would drive most people to despair admittedly. But then I'll say yes but everytime you have a shit you leave skid marks in the toilet. But, because he could slip and die in the shower the next day, and no one has ever died from a skidmark, it makes my point utterly invalid and it's just a deflection from the issue. This is just one example of many.
I often say things in the heat of the argument that i regret later on. I can be disgusting in an argument. But he will just make up lies to add to his arguments but somehow that doesn't make them invalid.

I don't really know what the point of this post is really. No.one can know if aibu or not because I'm sure he would tell a different story altogether. I'm no angel, at all. I'm messy, I'm bad with money, and I say things I don't mean. But it's so emotionally exhausting that I'm constantly berated like a child, and have to strive to be a better person, and it's met with incredulity and absolutely no humbleness from his end.

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zzzzz · 25/05/2017 00:19

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MrsTerryPratchett · 25/05/2017 00:37

You have to revisit the way you communicate. There are very simple tricks you can use to start doing it better. You have to have the agreement of both people and try hard to stick to it.

Simple fixes:

I statements. Yes they work. No "you did... you made me... you never... you always".
In fact ban 'always' and 'never'.

Use this phrase, "the story I'm telling myself..." You could say, "the story I'm telling myself is that the skidmarks are left for me to see". He can then talk about the story, not about you. It works.
No; point scoring, long lists of faults, mean words, escalation.

Have a list on the fridge and a jar you have to put money in when you break a rule. Makes it funny and you can spend the money on a dinner out once you've been cured.

PyongyangKipperbang · 25/05/2017 00:38

DH does the deflection thing.

If I say "It really bugs me when you....." he will immediately say "Well YOU do....." as if that somehow totally writes off what I was saying! So then if I say "OK, fine. We''ll talk about about that in a second but what about...." and he wont let it go. Its like there can never be any admission of guilt or wrongdoing ever and its so frustrating.

I have found that saying "Look, I wanted to talk about X but you keep trying to change the subject, so I am not getting into this anymore" and walking away helps. Just not allowing myself to get goaded into a row where I am defending myself against loads of accusations because of one thing I said to him.

It works although it is hard going and I have to keep and eye on myself because he always trys to deflect and I can sometimes get drawn in without realising it.

But you're right, it is fucking exhausting. And utterly pointless.

PyongyangKipperbang · 25/05/2017 00:40

terrible typos everywhere. "Trys"?!!Blush

38cody · 25/05/2017 00:47

So how do you clean the DH's and DC's (NEVER MINE) skiddies off the pan without a loo brush then?

notangelinajolie · 25/05/2017 00:49

Arguing over silly pathetic things is childish and you should both grow up.

FlapAttack88 · 25/05/2017 00:54

"30/12/2015 22:48 BuildMoreHouses

Small jug of warm water poured over skid marks removes them."

Fuck knows as I sure as hell the above suggestion won't work. See the thread I linked earlier. .. it also has suggestions like just leave bleach on it or wipe off wit toilet roll.in your hands or, my personal favourite, cover with hot water and toilet roll on top to leave it to moisten (😨) and soak off

Don't shoot the messenger!!! I was the odd.one out in the thread I am talking about... I can't remember which one it was now... everything thought loo brushes were worse than the devil himself

purplecoathanger · 25/05/2017 00:55

I couldn't live with either of you and that's the truth.

quizqueen · 25/05/2017 01:07

Whoever makes the skid marks in the loo should clean them straight afterwards themselves. You do not have to shave sitting in the bath in water. Have you tried waxing or sugaring? Hair stays on the wax/sugar paste- throw in bin- everyone happy.

FlapAttack88 · 25/05/2017 01:14

Quizqueen this is prob my fault for being fixated on skid mark removal so I am sorry for derailing... I don't think op s main issue here is to find alternative techniques for hair removal or skid mark removal .... its about her and her partner bickering

1forAll74 · 25/05/2017 02:06

Lots of people may have far more awful situations to deal with in a household,as in illnesses etc.so best just to walk away from silly little arguments re as mentioned.
I have a problem with hairs, but not in the bath, my house is full of ginger and white hairs,,off my three cats !

Pallisers · 25/05/2017 02:46

I couldn't live with either of you and that's the truth.

I couldn't live with 99.9% of posters on MN tbh.

Bigblug · 25/05/2017 08:43

The 'oh shit sorry mate' does happen. Problem is, at least in my opinion, I end up getting told off. This whole argument licked off because I spent the last tenner in the account for some lunch and bits in the shop on Monday. Our tax credits went in on Tuesday. Dp started saying 'why have you moved it? What have I told you about moving money? What have you got to say for yourself?' Literally like a dad berating a child. The admission of guilt from me, and the apology, often falls on deaf ears. If I have an issue I'll just mention it once, but he's like a dog with a bone and it drives me crazy.
Absolutely blown away by the toilet brush thing. We buy a new one monthly, but I didn't realise they were such work of the devil!

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Iamastonished · 25/05/2017 08:49

Why don't you clean the bath while it is draining? It takes so little time. Our bath gets cleaned every time it is used (which is rarely). It does get covered with dust though as we usually shower.

DarkFloodRises · 25/05/2017 08:54

"What have you got to say for yourself" would drive me mad. How patronising?!?

OP, have you considered a marriage course? Much cheaper than counselling. It sounds like you and DP need to work on your communication with each other and how you handle conflict.

GloriaV · 25/05/2017 08:54

Sounds like him telling you off as if a 10 yr old is the prob . So it's the lack of respect for all the many adult things you do.
Mansplaining is a problem, a lot of men do it.
Maybe you could have told him about the money first- why were you 'moving' it . Surely you withdrew it.
Arrange an quiet hour no DCs once a week and discuss all probs as they are usually a superficial issue covering a deeper resentment.

FlapAttack88 · 25/05/2017 11:39

He sounds like a right arse. If he starts telling you off like that then that's really not ok . I don't know what to suggest really as it's a relly tough situation. Its one thing to raise an issue but another to tell you off like that . You're not a child and sme shouldn't treat you like one

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