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lionheart · 19/05/2017 17:33

Watch and listen.

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GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 16:20

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#TrumpinSaudi literally formalizes Gen Flynn's crazy Iran-ISIS-AQ terror alliance as policy. Completely wrong. Watch for NK tie-in soon
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(((Mia Bloom))) Retweeted Malcolm Nance
Yes @wrightr noticed same thing that he was mixing apples with oranges & even pears - Iran is not AQ or ISIS - jihadism not all same thing

GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 16:21

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And a paid speech! "Trump Jr.’s speech at a Dubai university raises ethics questions"
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GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 16:22

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.@OversightDems have released a draft subpoena Cummings had prepared for Chaffetz to consider signing to obtain W.H. docs re: Trump-Russia. pic.twitter.com/RZeOyKZmY1

Orlantina · 21/05/2017 16:25

Wow....

If you read that, you wouldn't believe some of that was the President of the United States

"Religious leaders must make this absolutely clear: Barbarism will deliver you no glory – piety to evil will bring you no dignity. If you choose the path of terror, your life will be empty, your life will be brief, and YOUR SOUL WILL BE CONDEMNED"

If we do not stand in uniform condemnation of this killing—then not only will we be judged by our people, not only will we be judged by history, but we will be judged by God.
This is not a battle between different faiths, different sects, or different civilizations.
This is a battle between barbaric criminals who seek to obliterate human life, and decent people of all religions who seek to protect it.
This is a battle between Good and Evil.
When we see the scenes of destruction in the wake of terror, we see no signs that those murdered were Jewish or Christian, Shia or Sunni. When we look upon the streams of innocent blood soaked into the ancient ground, we cannot see the faith or sect or tribe of the victims – we see only that they were Children of God whose deaths are an insult to all that is holy.

lionheart · 21/05/2017 16:26

The bar is set so low he only has to read a speech (written by someone else) for commentators on CNN to start fawning over how Presidential he has become.

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GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 16:26

And the fall out begins.....

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MORE: Hamas rejects Trump's description of group as a terror organization, says it shows his 'complete bias' towards Israel

GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 16:30

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Iran just told Trump to urge Saudi Arabia to prevent the next 9/11 bit.ly/2r6jysD

GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 16:33

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Anyone else think this Trump speech in Saudi will be introduced in court to claim Muslim Ban is not a Muslim Ban?

Roussette · 21/05/2017 16:41

Interesting... Preibus is going back to USA after barely a day there...
www.palmerreport.com/opinion/early-reince-preibus-trump/2975/
There's lots of speculation

lionheart · 21/05/2017 16:41

I'd like to see them try that one Ginger. They will have to train Trump to give a 'road to Damascus' speech in order to explain the transformation.

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This is what happens when you think diplomacy is just another business: arms deals at a discount plus empty corporate bloviation abt terror

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GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 16:42

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Texas House approves tough new limits on abortion, after Supreme Court gutted many restrictions passed in 2013 abcn.ws/2r5JOmG

GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 16:45

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Instead of resetting relations w American Muslims, his own citizens he maligned, he made peace w Saudi Arabia for sake of bling. #cnnsotu

GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 16:53

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This is the moment when Donald Trump became caliph

lionheart · 21/05/2017 16:55

They did give him a shiny gold medal. How could he resist?

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Orlantina · 21/05/2017 17:07

It's amazing how becoming President can change your views on countries.

AcrossthePond55 · 21/05/2017 17:15

If he was Pinocchio his nose would be a mile long by now.

I couldn't get over the religious overtones. Channeling his 'inner non-sectarian Billy Graham' perhaps? Surprised he didn't call for 'All of you who want world peace, come down to the front. We have people waiting to speak with you'.

I'm sure the Saudis in the room were 'laughing up their sleeve' at Trump. I only hope that the rank and file of Saudi citizen understand that he does NOT represent the majority of US citizens.

MsHooliesCardigan · 21/05/2017 17:22

This thread is half full in 48 hours. They have definitely started filling up more quickly again. I think that's indicative of something.

Orlantina · 21/05/2017 17:27

I wonder how that speech went down in Iran. Given it's just had an election and all....

Orlantina · 21/05/2017 17:28

I couldn't get over the religious overtones

He has definitely done God in lots of his speeches. So different to the UK.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 21/05/2017 17:32

"Religious leaders must make this absolutely clear: Barbarism will deliver you no glory – piety to evil will bring you no dignity. If you choose the path of terror, your life will be empty, your life will be brief, and YOUR SOUL WILL BE CONDEMNED"

fuck!
He really does have Demi-god aspirations.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 21/05/2017 17:37

"America is prepared to stand with you in pursuit of shared interests and common security, but the nations of the Middle East cannot wait for American power to crush this enemy for them. "

what!! why did they not throw shoes??

OhYouBadBadKitten · 21/05/2017 17:40

lol!

the paragraph quoted on the website I saw was actually taken from. “The nations of the Middle East cannot wait for American power to crush this enemy for them,” he said. “The nations of the Middle East will have to decide what kind of future they want for themselves, for their countries and, frankly, for their families and for their children.”

context matters!

GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 17:50

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Apparently Rex Tillerson is holding a press briefing in Riyadh right now. No American reporters are there because none of us were notified.

GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 17:53

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A large group of students just walked out of Notre Dame's commencement during VP Mike Pence's address. #ND2017 pic.twitter.com/g3dCuqPbXg

GingerIvy · 21/05/2017 18:01

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Each time cable news has decided Giant Toddler is looking Presidential, his administration shoots itself in the nutsack with 24 hours. #maga

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