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lionheart · 19/05/2017 17:33

Watch and listen.

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cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 20:59

He does. But.

"Pence thrives in a vacuum of inattention......."

He wouldn't get that as President. 2018 is still critical.

lionheart · 20/05/2017 21:06

Yes, agreed cozie. I'd also always be cautious of anyone for whom significant 'news; is preceded by a 'trailer'.

It's really odd, especially when the stakes are so high.

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cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 21:08

I don't think that they thought they'd actually do it. (Remember how close run it was in the end.) I reckon they hoped to have an embattled Clinton in power with an enraged Trump roaring around the country and - with luck - a Republican Congress. That would have been extremely destabilising as it was. But Trump won the electoral college after all.

woman12345 · 20/05/2017 21:13

Alt right press in Britain is on the turn against Trump:
www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/is-the-trump-presidency-in-its-last-days/

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 21:30

Yes - after a fashion.

RedToothBrush · 20/05/2017 21:40

Cameron Abadi‏*@CameronAbadi*
What would happen if Trump pardoned himself? @ProfBrianKalt has spent years thinking it through

foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/19/what-would-happen-if-trump-pardoned-himself-mueller-russia-investigation/
Can Trump Pardon Himself?
If the current president has proved anything, it’s that there’s a first time for everything

I have been writing about presidential self-pardons for years. My position has always been that they would be legally invalid. I have also believed that a self-pardon is unlikely to ever happen because there are too many incentives weighing against it. But I am not sure that applies to Trump, who has proved he has a high tolerance for personal risk and a taste for attempting the never-before attempted.

If you think the Trump situation is crackers and crazy now, just wait until we hit this. Its going to happen isn't it?!

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 21:44

He can't do it.

CaveMum · 20/05/2017 21:44

Prepare to cringe - dude has got no rhythm at all

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-39988492/trump-in-saudi-arabia-us-president-joins-ceremonial-sword-dance

lionheart · 20/05/2017 22:04

I cannot watch that CaveMum because if I did, it would just be added to the very long list of things I cannot unsee. Smile

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AcrossthePond55 · 20/05/2017 22:05

No beavers in this neck of the woods. But just like the White House there are plenty of nuts and lots of squirrels.

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 22:11

Squirrels? Don't tell me you watched that John Oliver piece? Wink

saffronwblue · 20/05/2017 22:24

Yep, can't be unseen.
Do none of Trump supporters associate Saudi with 9/11? Or do they still think it was Saddam Hussein?

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 22:40

It's difficult to guess. They likely don't know much about the reality of anything, I think.

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 22:50

And I'm very sorry, Across. I was reading last night about Santa Barbara and in particular about offshore fracking. (And the new perils which this administration will bring as well as the old perils.) I shall not dwell on it, but I know it's close to your neck of the woods.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 20/05/2017 22:57

Fracking in California? Near the San Andreas fault? What could possibly go wrong?

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 23:13

Don't get me started. (That's a whole other thread......) Grin

MrsT2007 · 20/05/2017 23:20

ITs not like the whole area isn't due another huge quake.

Oh, wait.....

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 23:24

The Hill‏Verified account @thehill 24m24 minutes ago
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JUST IN: McMaster suggests Trump won't say "radical Islamic terrorism" in Saudi Arabia speech hill.cm/mTTw9On

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 23:26

The Hill‏Verified account @thehill 2h2 hours ago
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NEW: GOP considers changing Senate rule which would make it easier to confirm Trump's circuit court picks hill.cm/7UZXRgJ

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 23:32

Thank Goodness he'll phrase things carefully if that is indeed to be the case.

I'm going to have to read the second piece again. It's complicated.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 21/05/2017 00:09

Well, that took a different turn to what I'd expected. BBC news covering the Trump/Saudi visit: ..."and that allowed the President to talk about something close to his heart.." I immediately thought "himself", but - no - "jobs"! It then played part of his speech where he did the classic "jobs, jobs, jobs" 3x repetition. Those kind of 3 part lists are ideally suited to Trump's tiny mind.

cozietoesie · 21/05/2017 00:25

I'll have to read it a third time - with a fresh mind, hopefully. It really is complex.

lionheart · 21/05/2017 00:52

This is simpler:

www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/richard-spencer-gym?utm_term=.jbENAGLwq#.kblv0AOk9

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lionheart · 21/05/2017 01:19

This is courageous:

:www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/05/al-green-impeachment-town-hall

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cozietoesie · 21/05/2017 01:28

I couldn't 'find the server' on that second link, lion, but I searched and got an article elsewhere. (Just to let you and others know.)

Yes. It was courageous.