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Spared jail?

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WeLoveTheMoon · 17/05/2017 14:58

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/16/oxford-student-spared-jail-extraordinary-talent/amp/

Having a debate with dp about this. Can I ask your opinions on if this is harsh enough or not

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taratill · 17/05/2017 17:21

teabagpleb thank goodness for common sense. So glad your friend is doing well.

Jellymuffin · 17/05/2017 17:44

This reminded me of that awful man who nearly dodged a prison sentence for abusing his wife as he had been picked for a county cricket team - turned out to be lies though but he was originally spared jail for that reason

HIG70 · 17/05/2017 17:48

I am torn on this. How many times do you read that so and so has been jailed for 6 months, suspended and then find out that they had 17 previous convictions.

If the legal system think it's too lenient when handed out, they will do something about it.

SenseiWoo · 17/05/2017 17:52

She hasn't been sentenced yet, so complaints about the sentence are premature.

She has 4 months to demonstrate that the remorse and determination to recover/atone etc. that she claimed to have are real. It won't be decided on her word alone-there will have to be evidence, e.g. from the people treating her.

worridmum · 17/05/2017 18:31

I bet my bottom dollar that if it was a man he woudl serve time no matter what, she didnt just punch / slap him like the criketer did she used a deadly weapon.

If she serves no time i hope the prosicution appeals the leinet sentance

AyeAmarok · 17/05/2017 18:39

she didnt just punch / slap him like the criketer did she used a deadly weapon.

Didn't the cricketer use a cricket bat and make her drink bleach?

And he was "spared jail" too, until there was a public outcry and the judge claimed he'd been misled and resentenced him.

NoLoveofMine · 17/05/2017 18:40

I bet my bottom dollar that if it was a man he woudl serve time no matter what, she didnt just punch / slap him like the criketer did she used a deadly weapon.

You'd lose your money then as there are countless cases where men are spared custodial sentences for violence against women, the vast majority of which would never get any coverage whatsoever. Part of the reason this has made news is because the perpetrator is a woman.

You also show so much ignorance about the other case you refer to I'm wondering if this was just a post intended to goad.

SomuchSlow · 17/05/2017 18:48

@AyeAmarok You are correct. That was horrific.

BollardDodger · 17/05/2017 18:52

One professional letting another professional off. Must both be members of a funny handshake club.

Artisanjam · 17/05/2017 19:14

Yes that's it, they're clearly both Freemasons or something rather than the judge following the published and easily googleable sentencing guidelines.

The cricketer had a suspended sentence - I.e was let off far more than this woman who has to prove alcohol treatment and engagement with probation etc prior to sentencing because she has NOT been sentenced yet.

taratill · 17/05/2017 19:34

What a crazy assumption to make. The fact that the judge may not give a custodial sentence has NOTHING to do with the fact that she is a professional. It will be in accordance with sentencing guidelines.

The fact that this is being reported in national press is because of the fact that she is a professional (and possibly because she is a woman).

If it was a non professional woman (or man) who had been involved in a domestic and was shown leniency for the same reasons it's such a non story that no one would be interested. Certainly not national newsworthy.

MissShittyBennet · 17/05/2017 19:41

This thread's getting as bad as some of the McCann ones for armchair experting.

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/05/2017 23:37

As someone who has had my hands on more offending histories and pre-sentence reports than most people have had hot dinners (a good few years ago) NO had it been a man he would not have been sent to prison. You'd be amazed at what people have to do to get locked up.

One off (seemingly), drug induced and the person is seeking treatment, gainful employment and/or studies, seems remorseful and penitent? I can't imagine a man going down for that as a first offence. Even though it is very serious.

Justbreathing · 18/05/2017 00:14

That's why I've said it's just fodder for newspapers because she's a profession pretty clever middle class woman
Jeeez we are just fueling their mediocrity
People have fucked children and don't get this much coverage

JoshLymanJr · 18/05/2017 13:27

One off (seemingly), drug induced and the person is seeking treatment, gainful employment and/or studies, seems remorseful and penitent?

In my opinion the problem isn't the sentence, it's that the principles behind the sentence aren't applied more often - treatment and support in lieu of (pointless?) incarceration; when they are they are applied the key factor is status - a young woman without the career prospects referenced here would have been more likely to go to jail.

iklboo · 18/05/2017 14:37

She's not a professional yet. She's still a student

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