To cut out dairy and eggs or not and for how long?

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DD (13months) is is allergic to cows milk and eggs. I breastfed from birth and am still feeding. When she was born she had explosive yellow poos, up to 12 a day. Very windy, poor sleeper - I remember asking the health visitor in despair if there was something wrong, she said it was normal. Another one said it was colic and suggested gripe water. Then she went through a period of green poos - different health visitor said I wasn't feeding her long enough before changing breast. I asked both if they thought it could be milk allergy (my cousin was allergic as a baby) and both brushed me off. She always had dry skin but by 4 months she had developed eczema, diagnosed by the Gp but never getting better despite all the creams she gave me. I asked her again about allergy and she said it was just eczema. I didn't feel she listened to me so read a bit on the internet and tried a milk free diet for 2 weeks. It didn't seem to make a difference (though now I'm not sure I did it properly - I didn't think to check food labels). When I started weaning her, she had came up in a rash when I gave her yogurt and egg. We've just been to the allergy clinic and again I don't feel listened to - her skin test was positive for milk and egg and I told them that I'd tried to go milk free myself but wasn't sure I'd done it properly and it hadn't made a difference. They didn't tell me to do it again or to stop breastfeeding but did give me formula to add into meals instead of cows milk and said to avoid eggs. I'm feeling guilty feeding her when her skin is so aeful, but I'm really confused as I font know whether I'm making it worse, or if changing my diet or stopping breastfeeding will help her. If I'm honest, I did feel a bit of negativity from the doctors about still breastfeeding but not sure if that's because of her age or because I'm poisoning her. Is it possible that she has a milk allergy thats NOT affected by breastfeeding (or is that impossible). The more I read, the more confused I get and I don't feel very supported by the hospital. Help!

It's not ridiculous , many (not all of course) people are intolerant of dairy and gluten (see Wheat Belly by Willam Davis MD), if the industries weren't so powerful there would be many more medics advising against them. Vegans are not necessarily ill, in fact often they re much healthier than adults and children who eat 'normally'

Way to prove my point. That is utter utter bullshit of the highest order.

None of us are designed to drink the milk of another animal! Cut out dairy for sure. Eating a plant based diet helps all sorts of ailments, alot of which are dermatological - acne, eczema, psoriasis etc. It'll only do her good :)

Op - if they have confirmed a diagnosis of cmpa and eggergy they yes you absolutely must cut it out of your diet if you are going to continue to breastfeed.

Please be aware that Neocate has links to causing a potassium deficiency which can lead to brittle bones. My friend had all sorts of issues when her dd was admitted with a chest infection only to find and had 7 fractured ribs and cracked vertebrae as a rest of prolonged Neocate use.

There is no reason why a healthy adult can't function without milk and eggs in their diet so absolutely give it a go cutting them out, for at least a month.

However, I did exactly that ( I was off dairy and egg for 6 mths in the end) and it made not one jot of difference to my breast fed allergicky twins, who have very clearly diagnosed allergies( RAST scores up in the 60's)

So in my opinion, it's absolutely worth a go, but it may not make any difference. It's definitely possible for some CMPA babies to bfeed from a milk and egg eating Mum without reacting - some do, some don't. ( and while eggs aren't dairy, it is very common to be allergic to both)

Like everything allergy related, trial and error ( or elimination and reintroduction) is the most reliable test. Good luck.

My DC1 had this, I cut them out, it's not as hard as it seems but I gave up after a few months because I found it hard. Could you switch her to goat's milk now she is over a year and stop BFing, or go onto goat's milk yourself they also do butter, ice cream etc and nutritionally it's better than soya. Although there is some fortified soya around.

None of us are designed at all. I hope the recommendation of a plant based diet is for the adult only, and not the baby (which would be idiotic).

Noti and how exactly would it be "idiotic"? Personally I think feeding a baby the milk and flesh of other animals is beyond bizarre

MissBax humans are omnivores we are meant to eat, also the baby needs an omnivorous diet to grow.

MrsMarigold 😂😂😂 tell that to all the veggie babies out there WHO GROW!!
We don't "need meat" - we need carbs, fats and proteins plus a variety of minerals and vitamins, and water. We can get all of those from a plant based diet.

Erm, incase you didn't know - the meat you eat (pigs, sheep, chicken, cows) only eat plants themselves. Where do you think they get b12 from? They get supplements - thus the b12 meat eaters get in 2nd hand through the meat.

Milk is for baby cows not humans. There are masses of 'alternatives' available.

@MissBax

You're missing the point of this thread. The OP asked about what she can do about what to eat whilst breastfeeding her baby who has allergies not to debate about whether humans should be carnivores, omnivores or vegetarians.

OP - obviously a doctor/ paediatrician and dietician should be helping you out with the finer in's and out's of your little ones allergies and how best to manage that when you're breastfeeding or whether you choose to use an alternative milk / formula. They will also help you with the milk ladder as and when you wish to try weaning your little one back onto dairy products should you choose to do so.

In the meantime this website is very helpful in terms of giving ideas on alternatives to dairy should you choose to continue breastfeeding whilst being dairy free.

dilanandme.com/

evens not missed the point in the slightest - my first comment was saying that it is likely that milk and or dairy is causing the eczema. Most people have an intolerance to dairy products that they just don't realise. It was only when other people jumped on my point saying that "babies need meat to grow" (LOL) that I felt the need to point out a few facts.

Noti and how exactly would it be "idiotic"? Personally I think feeding a baby the milk and flesh of other animals is beyond bizarre

And you can do whatever idiotic things you like with your own children. Please don't advise others to do so. A vegan diet for a baby who already has multiple issues is a dangerous suggestion.

Most people in the West DO NOT have an intolerance to dairy products, this is categorically untrue. We have evolved to consume dairy products well, that is what humans do: evolve.

Actually most people do suffer - acne, eczema, psoriasis, asthma, IBS, migraines, ENT, sinusitis, acid reflex, indigestion, weight gain, high cholesterol, heart disease, hypertension...
If your child gets all the right nutrients they DO NOT need meat and dairy.
you can do whatever idiotic things you like with your own children. Please don't advise others to do so. - Ditto. Please don't advise people to consume products which are carcinogenic and have direct links to certain cancers.

It doesn't seem like you asked the right questions or got the right answers at your appointment. Instead of asking random people on the internet I would go back to doctor, take someone with you to make sure you don't miss anything. Write down all your concerns and explain how confused you are and try to get clear advice about feeding the baby.

Actually most people do suffer - acne, eczema, psoriasis, asthma, IBS, migraines, ENT, sinusitis, acid reflex, indigestion, weight gain, high cholesterol, heart disease, hypertension

None of those things are usually, if at all, caused by dairy. Stop talking such horseshit!

I'd cut out dairy and eggs for both of you. At least 4 weeks before deciding it's not working. And check everything - there's hidden dairy in ham sometimes, wine, all sorts.

Formula is up to you, but why not try fortified oat milk (it's what we use) as the amino acid formula smelt like death

Have you considered excluding soya too? The protein strands are really similar and allergies to milk protein and soya often go hand in hand.

NotI - eat what you want, it really doesn't concern me. But if you suffer with any of these things I would urge you to try 3 months of a WFPB diet and see the results for yourself. At the very least do a bit of research, you might surprise yourself.

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I,ll repeat my recommendation of Liz Earle's book, OP NEW VITAL OILS there are many studies showing how we all need the essential fatty acids because due to intensive farming, our food lacks these. She found that her eczema was cured by taking evening primrose oil.