pringle How dare Labour try to outlaw hate crimes against LGBT people... How dare they try to curb usage of offensive and derogatory terms?!?!
Depends what you mean by "offensive and derogatory language", really. The T of LGBT seem to think it means agreeing with everything they say. I dont agree with other groups - for example, I'm not Muslim myself so I disagree with their ideology. Doesn't mean I am islamophobic or think they should be discriminated against. For some reason not agreeing with the trans narrative makes me transphobic, despite not wanting trans people to be discriminated against.
neli You all need to calm down about the 'men in bathrooms' thing and understand that LGBT people are beaten, raped and villified far worse than most of MN have ever experienced.
We're women, we are aware what this is like. I realise it suits you to ignore that though.
Perhaps the trans lobby should focus their campaigns on addressing violence against trans people rather than access to women's spaces? We really could do with some help addressing the huge problem of male violence!
Half of the LGBT are women too (with or without trans counts) so this IS about safe places for women - women who are especially vulnerable!
Nope, women who are especially vulnerable are going to be forced to share "safe" and intimate spaces with males!
And the L of LGBT - you mean the women who should agree to being penetrated by a penis otherwise it's ? (A female penis, obvs.)
MrsGWay If you want to really want to upset yourselves read the Trans ideology being sent into schools. Stonewall website has it.
Do you mean this?
The one featuring a male who identifies as a woman, going into the women's loo. The young women in there whisper to each other - why is he there? So the transwoman tries the men's loo next time, where there are two threatening middle aged men who shout abuse and intimidate them.
The discussion point for the class is "How did the women behave towards her? How did that make her feel?"
Completely ignoring the threatening behaviour of the men, and pinning the "transphobia" on the women.
FrenchMind Come on, BBC, admit it, it is funny, in a schadenfreude way. But apparently, the Labour care about everyone but women that want to keep their own space. And you are a-ok with it.
I see what you're getting at but I find it just horrifying. Across the political spectrum, and in other areas of life, people seem to be so tribal. Like they doggedly agree with a person or people (their "tribe"), rather than specific issues. (I'm hesitant to mention it as don't want to derial - but Corbyn having a nuanced view of EU really got people's back's up!)
And I'm definitely not a-ok with it, but voting is a lesser of evils, for me personally.