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Am I crazy to seriously consider moving abroad?

20 replies

ComingUpTrumps · 08/05/2017 17:31

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to post this here for traffic if that's okay, and also to have some advice please. Sorry for the long post!

Just to give some context, I'm an Oxbridge Languages graduate in my mid-twenties and I'm currently job-hunting. At the moment, I'm working as a tutor in London whilst I'm applying for jobs. I studied French at uni, and try to use French as much as possible every day (reading and listening, although I find occasions for speaking and writing a bit harder to come by on a daily basis).

I've heard from different places (on here, from my university careers service and from friends and family) that a good way of deciding which job roles to apply for is to identify your values and talents, and then make a list of them to see if they fit with a particular career or role. I think this is going to be a really helpful strategy with job-hunting.

However, ever since graduating, one thing that's stopped me from wanting to focus on building a career in the UK is because I've become more and more interested in the possibility of moving (temporarily, at this stage) to France or Belgium, and building a career there (which ideally I could then use in Britain too).

I've lived in France on three occasions now, for a year each time, and really loved my experience both times. I lived in Paris for several months on the third occasion that I lived in France, and I would consider moving to Paris in particular - partly because I loved it when I lived there, I feel that there would be more employment opportunities in Paris (or another big city like Bordeaux, Nantes or Marseille, for example) and because I already know a few people currently living in Paris.

Another possibility of moving to a French-speaking area of Belgium, or a mainly French-speaking city like Brussels, for instance. I visited Brussels for a few days a couple of years ago, and really enjoyed staying there, although I'm not as familiar at all with Belgium as I am with France.

I completely understand though that, if I did move to France or Belgium now, it may be very well be the case that my move doesn't go well - for example, I might not find a job at all, I might find it difficult to get to know people, I might struggle to 'settle' wherever I move to, or other factors might crop up that might make the move difficult. I do feel though that it would be best to attempt a move sooner rather than later, especially considering Brexit, although I understand that it will take years to fully sort out the UK leaving the EU and the rights of UK nationals living in EU countries.

Anyway, my AIBU is: would it be crazy for me to seriously consider moving to France (or Belgium) when I don't currently have a job there waiting for me to move to? Am I being naive??

Thanks, everyone! :)

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GeordieSoapDish · 08/05/2017 17:34

YANBU.. lots of my friends and family members have done this, and I wish I had. Do it now, though, before Brexit!!

mygorgeousmilo · 08/05/2017 17:36

Not crazy at all, and nothing is final - of it doesn't work, come back, no harm done. You have to try these things! Do it now and get EU residency card before the crappiness starts

Traalaa · 08/05/2017 17:37

Go! Seriously why wouldn't you? You may never have this chance again and you can always come back.

jellyfrizz · 08/05/2017 17:47

Do it! Abroad is great. I moved overseas at about your age and spent nearly 15 years away.

And like a pp said you can always move back if it doesn't work out.

allegretto · 08/05/2017 17:48

I did it at your age too - twenty years later I am still abroad!

BurningViolin · 08/05/2017 17:49

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Chavelita · 08/05/2017 17:49

But why on earth would a languages graduate seeking work and considering moving abroad be crazy?

downwifthekidz100 · 08/05/2017 17:54

If an Oxbridge language graduate can't get a job abroad there's no hope for anyone.
Why not ..just apply for jobs abroad?

ZiggyForever · 08/05/2017 18:05

Go for it! Have an adventure. If you don't, you might always wonder "what if . . . " . . .

RedMetamorphosis · 08/05/2017 18:17

I've moved abroad three times (once to France) without a job and managed to get one within 6 weeks each time.

The great thing is that if you don't find a job in the field you are in, you can always get work teaching English until something else comes along. I'd look at the British Council as well as international lycees (I ended up teaching English for one and didn't need a teaching degree).

What sort of field/industry do you want to go into? Probably easier to work that out and then look into what opportunities there are in certain areas.

springhassprungohmy · 08/05/2017 18:50

Omg do it!

Totally jealous btw

ComingUpTrumps · 08/05/2017 21:52

Thank so much everyone for your replies so far! :)

BurningViolin that's a really good point - I'm really hoping I can find a job before moving, because I think having a job to go to would definitely take the pressure off before moving!

Chavelita I think I'm just nervous about not being able to find work in France, or being unhappy after moving. I think looking for jobs before moving would be a really good plan.

Ziggy, that's very true. I think that if I didn't seriously look into moving abroad now, I would probably always wonder 'what if'.

Red that's a really good idea - thank you! Especially about teaching English lessons if I haven't got a job to go to when I move. The main industries that I'm interested in are communications and marketing, charity, journalism and government jobs as well (although I understand that I'd have to be based in the UK to apply for Civil Service jobs, for example).

I've been looking for jobs on and off so far, but not seriously. I will be properly looking from now on though. Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for looking for jobs in France (particularly in and around Paris)? Would be really interested if anyone has any tips for job-hunting in Paris (and France in general)! :)

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RedMetamorphosis · 08/05/2017 22:06

Have a look on indeed.fr - it compiles multiple job websites into one. Depending on your experience levels, I would also consider internships.

Some jobs that may be interesting:
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www.indeed.fr/voir-emploi?jk=8aa9e4e2c3b83df0&q=press&l=Paris&tk=1bfktpp4c4eondds&from=ifa&utm_source=publisher&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=newifa&pub=214ee7f19a3d74d64bff9bc1f4cb96c40cace3277f6b99df

Also worth setting yourself up on LinkedIn if you haven't already and joining expat groups based in the locations you are interested in. Facebook groups may also be useful.

Best advice I can give is always make sure you have an exit plan. Have enough money to get you and your stuff home, and a place to come back to if necessary. Makes things less daunting to make the move if you know it doesn't have to be permanent if you don't want.

ComingUpTrumps · 08/05/2017 22:45

Thanks so much, Red! :) I've just had a look at the content marketing role for now, and it looks really good! I'll have a look at the other roles tomorrow, and will definitely keep an eye on Indeed!

If anyone else also has any other tips about moving abroad or job-hunting, please do pass them on - it would be great to hear from you! :)

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ComingUpTrumps · 09/05/2017 13:38

Thanks again everyone! If anyone has any tips on moving abroad (Paris in particular) and on finding jobs abroad, I'd love to hear from you :)

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jellyfrizz · 09/05/2017 14:08

You might find BritishExpat forum a better place to ask questions: britishexpats.com/forum/

ShiningArmour · 09/05/2017 14:11

Get out now before Brexit! Bloody wish I could!

MummysMaison · 09/05/2017 14:13

We moved to France last year. I gave up my job in England and my husband works online so can do it anywhere. It was the best thing we have done. My daughters have been fanstastic, the oldest becoming almost fluent in 8 months. I would not change our decision and I'm glad we took the opportunity when it presented itself!

Do it, you only live once!

ComingUpTrumps · 09/05/2017 14:24

Thanks jelly, shining and Mummys :)

jelly the forum looks great - thanks!

Mummys I'm so glad you're enjoying living in France! It definitely sounds like you've made the best decision :) whereabouts are you based, if you don't mind me asking? Are you near a big town or in the countryside?

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MummysMaison · 09/05/2017 14:51

We live in a small village that only has a small village hall and school for 6-8 yrs. In a car it's about 15 from the nearest town where the supermarkets etc are. My girls get the bus to school (20 kids in each school!). We are about an hour north east of Bordeaux.

At the moment we are renting our house but we have just had an offer accepted on a lovely old place in our village that needs renovation. Can't wait! We've been made more than welcome by everyone and that's what I was most worried about.

I always thought I'd want a house with lots of land and on it's own in the rolling hills. Since renting in a village we love having neighbours and everything is about community! We are not excluded because we are not French, in fact my husband is quickly becoming the mayors best friend Grin. You get as much out of it as you put in! We are lucky in that there is an English community around us so we have an English circle of friends with children a similar age to ours. Plus it's lovely and sunny quite a lot of the time - always a bonus!

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