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Why not just vote for Jeremy Corbyn then?

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LadyGlitterSparklesSeriously · 05/05/2017 22:19

All I see are people running around clucking about how unelectable Jeremy Corbyn is. Some even wailing on Facebook about how they're staunch Labour voters but will have to vote Conservative because there's just 'no opposition' and it's 'breaking their hearts'. "Nobody will vote for him, so I possibly couldn't vote for him!" seems to be the attitude.

I'm probably thick... but why don't they just vote for him? His policies are 'lovely' but he's 'weak', he's this and that, so obviously vote for his complete opposite then Hmm - how does that help, exactly?

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LadyGlitterSparklesSeriously · 05/05/2017 22:21

couldn't possibly, that should say.

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Figaro2017 · 05/05/2017 22:22

I have a feeling all these pro Corbyn threads are being coordinated....

donajimena · 05/05/2017 22:22

Because he's an arse.

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LadyGlitterSparklesSeriously · 05/05/2017 22:24

Ah you've rumbled me. I'm actually Diane Abbott.

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Bluntness100 · 05/05/2017 22:24

People aren't voting for him as they don't see him as capable of governing the country and leading us through brexit. That's not something you take a chance with. The shadow cabinet are a bunch of second or third choices and the party is st each other's throats. So folks are voting for competency during what is one of our most unstable times that we have faced. The torys are by far proven the most competent and that's what's important right now. The polices are high on irrelevant.

rosawitch · 05/05/2017 22:25

no-one is competent, it's grim i've given up voting. it's outdated

Figaro2017 · 05/05/2017 22:26

You're only Diane Abbott if you can't do maths!

amyyyyy · 05/05/2017 22:27

I think he'd bankrupt us.

teawamutu · 05/05/2017 22:27

Because I want him out. So I'm not adding even one vote to Labour's total.

Short term pain, long term chance of rebuilding and becoming electable at some point.

teawamutu · 05/05/2017 22:29

Incidentally that doesn't mean I'm voting Tory. There's a line.

Sandsnake · 05/05/2017 22:30

If they're actually 'staunch' Labour as they claim then there are other options than voting Tory - we're not a two party state no matter how it may seem at times. That said, I can understand how they can't bring themselves to vote for Corbyn, although understand less the obsession with Facebook naval gazing. JC clearly is not PM material and some of the people he surrounds himself with are contemptible. He's been given an unreasonably hard time by some sections of the press but this still remains true.

lougle · 05/05/2017 22:30

Because he is standing in front of the nation pledging to spend money on things like 'free school meals for all primary school children', when as a school governor I know there isn't enough money for schools to educate the children, and 'lifting the 1% cap on health staff wages' and instead pledging a 3% rise, which will cost around £1.5 billion, when as a nurse, I can see that the NHS is struggling to meet the needs of patients. So if that money was available, and he hasn't given any indication that it really is available, or where it would actually come from, I would be much more inclined to vote for him if I he was saying that he would tackle the real issues instead of chucking out cheap vote winners.

GraceGrape · 05/05/2017 22:33

Because regardless if you like his policies, he can't be trusted to implement them. The stories of his leadership are of chaotic management and disorganisation. He cannot manage the people who are on the same side as him, so how would he cope with running a government. He leaves much of his publicity and media to people like Diane Abbott, who can't get the facts right.

Also, he has provided zero credible opposition at a time when it was sorely needed. He has failed to hold the government to account over a ridiculously hard approach to Brexit, swingeing cuts to public services and to the poorest in society.

It's a shame, because I was genuinely hopeful of getting more socialist ideas on the agenda when he was elected leader. Now I think he needs to step down ASAP so Labour can choose a leader who might be able to win in 5 years, rather than leaving us to another decade or more of Conservative government.

Having said all that, personally I would still rather a Corbyn government than a May one, but I live in a Tory stronghold and Labour don't get more than a few hundred votes here so it's not a decision that's in my hands.

DIYandEatCake · 05/05/2017 22:33

The problem's not him - I like the guy and think he has integrity and good ideas - but some of the other backstabbing people in the Labour Party who can't get behind him and insist on badmouthing him to the press. And the (mostly Tory-owned) media of course has a lot to answer for. If every potential Labour MP was positive about what they could achieve as a party, and if the media coverage was in favour of Corbyn, the outcome of the election could be very different.

Blowingthroughthejasmineinmymi · 05/05/2017 22:35

I cant do maths and I am not ashamed of it - there are tons of things I can and cant do - however going on a national radio show at such a time and fudge that is something I would not do

CurlieSue · 05/05/2017 22:37

I'm so depressed about the state of our politicians. There is no-one I want to vote for. I think Corbyn would make a weak leader so I will vote for May even though I dont want to. If only Labour had a decent leader I would vote for them no hesitation.

raspberrysuicide · 05/05/2017 22:37

I'm going to vote for him.

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LadyGlitterSparklesSeriously · 05/05/2017 22:40

So nobody seems to be claiming that the Conservatives are going to be great for them and the country, yet they still seem to be preferrable to a Labour government.

So Jeremy Corbyn and Labour will do the country more damage than them? Is that the reasoning, do you think?

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LadyGlitterSparklesSeriously · 05/05/2017 22:41

Incidentally that doesn't mean I'm voting Tory. There's a line.

Grin
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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 05/05/2017 22:44

The problem is Corbyn

A man with his background and connections will never be PM

Also the country will always reject a far left ideology we are a centre right conservative country

Many people realised this as soon as he became leader others have started to realise that we shall all see that when Labour get trashed at the GE as it did yesterday

Teabagtits · 05/05/2017 22:45

I'm an ex labour voter (never a Tory!) and I found Corbyn a breath of fresh air but the internal bickering and backstabbing from the plp meant he had no hope. He may be ineffective in the politics of personality but governments are meant to be a team and his team are too busy infighting to be able to govern. I'd never vote labour again because the internal party politics piss me off too much. Too many self interested people and that's not what labour meant for me. They've fucked up themselves and if I'm honest I think corbyn has been an easy target. It was already going on with Miliband before him and it would be going on with whoever comes after him. The media have helped this position immensely and morons in the plp have tried to use this to their personal advantage not realising the effect this has on the voters. Corbyns an easy scapegoat and the Tories have pounced on this with their GE mantra of which personality would you rather lead the country instead of which mp would you rather represent your constituency and it's needs? I don't think it would matter who was labour leader, this would've happened because they're making too many wrong choices and are stuck in an era of past successes.

Ethylred · 05/05/2017 22:47

Because he's dim and rigid and self-righteous and hates his own country and loves the IRA, who were never anything more than a bunch of psychopaths.

Is that enough?

notquiteruralbliss · 05/05/2017 22:50

I'm voting Labour. and quite happy to.

Fruitcocktail6 · 05/05/2017 22:54

I will vote for him

Chchchchangeabout · 05/05/2017 23:13

I don't think he's a genuine and nice person. He has some odd sympathies with some very dodgy groups. He hasn't stood up to or called out some nasty bullying in his party, often against minorities. He's making promises of money that just doesn't exist. Where was his opposition on Brexit? I would love to vote for a more progressive leader than May but Corbyn would be a disaster for the country on so many levels and he feels like a total throwback.