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WIBU to hide upstairs when PIL visit

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WhaleOfATale · 05/05/2017 10:45

Huge backstory to this one and don't want to dripfeed

Myself and dh get on well with FIL but MIL is basically an awful person (although FIL enables her for an "easy life" which also winds me up!). She basically has no friends left and dh's siblings have very little to do with her anymore. By the sounds of it, when they were growing up children were very much an inconvenience to her (unless she was showing off one of their achievements) and she made no secret of the fact that they were to stay out of her way (to the point where basically they would come home from school, go to their rooms, emerge for dinner when FIL came home and then go back to their room so they didn't have to interact with her). Hearing stories, I do wonder whether she was suffering PND or similar but can't say as I wasn't there.

DH & I have been together for nearly 15yrs. She is quite manipulative in that she tries to be friendly with me at some points but have heard her talking about me behind my back or she will openly criticise me to my face, on one occasion telling me that I wasn't good enough for her son and that I am not welcome in her family. Following this, I tried to avoid her but would be civil when meeting up at family events, then she started referring to me as her daughter-in-law so figured that she may have finally accepted me and tried to get past this.

When dh and I announced our engagement, she stepped it up a gear and criticised all our plans (even going so far as to talk about it behind our back and cancel some things that we had planned, luckily we found out and was able to sort it out) which prompted dh to have it out with her and she actually did turn it around at this point as apologised and was "good" for quite a while (prior to dh's talk, he did the same as his df and pretended it wasn't happening even though it upset him a lot; he says when we were getting married he realised he had to step up and be there for me even if this meant going a against the grain with his family).

However, we have now had a baby and she is openly critical about our parenting choices (Blw instead of purée food, having a bedtime routine- not set in stone but always read/brush teeth/bottle before bed, etc.). When dh tries to be firm and say that it's our choice as parents to do these things, she then gets upset and says she was only joking and what a wonderful job we are doing.

As my dh has picked her up so many times on this, both at the time of doing it and having more serious talks with her (where he has said that if she continues we will be considering low/no contact with her), she now alternates between criticising me or completely ignoring me when my dh is not in the room and then acting normally when he returns. As a result, I now make excuses to not be in the room with her (e.g. Making drinks while dh stays with them, making food for dc, even ironing in another room). She has told other family members (aunties/uncles/grandparents) that I am being rude and making them feel unwelcome and I am now being ignored by other family members. We have tried not to get into it with extended family as they all love a good gossip and don't feel like we should have to defend ourselves when they all know what mil is like.

Although we have threatened LC/NC, I don't know if we actually want to follow through as although MIL is awful, FIL is a very nice man and I don't want dc to not have a relationship with their grandparents. I also suspect that she would influence other family members to cut contact with us if we were to cut contact with her. I only have a few immediate family members in this country (the rest are spread across the world) so I feel like dc will miss out on having family relationships if we were to go NC.

So basically, WIBU to hide upstairs (or go out) when PIL visit, so they don't know I'm there. Then She can't say I'm being rude by busying myself in another room and I don't have to put up with her being rude to me.

TLDR; MIL is horrible, WIBU to hide in my own house to avoid having to see her.

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Ipigglemustdie · 05/05/2017 10:51

Tough one. If you stay in there with her it might drive you to violence, if you avoid her she gets what she wants. Not helpful sorry, but I would probably stay as it doesn't give her a free ride. Good luck

Chloe84 · 05/05/2017 10:53

Why do you think she will be any better with your children than she was with her own?

You would be unreasonable to hide upstairs in your own home like a guilty fugitive. Tell DH he should take the kids to see GPs at their own house, and you won't be going.

As DH's siblings have little to do with her, I suspect the wider family know what she's like and won't blame you.

WhaleOfATale · 06/05/2017 16:22

Took Chloe's advice and sent dh and dc this afternoon.DH checked they'd be in with fil, who said he'd be out late morning but should be back for 1ish but mil was in all day so turn up whenever. Dh heard her say something in the background along the lines of "I don't want her in my house, she's rude to me", before fil could respond dh said that I wasn't rude and if she didn't want to see her grandchild then that was her choice as she's no longer welcome in our home if she thinks she can talk about his wife like that. Fil apologised, promised that he'd speak to mil and begged him to come around still so could sort everything out.

Dh agreed (because he doesn't want fil to lose out on a relationship with dc as mil won't allow him to visit without her) and turned up at 1.30, fil was still out (he assumes- his car wasn't on drive but could potential have been in garage). Mil stood in lounge as he parked up, unloaded dc but when he knocked on front door, no answer.

He went to lounge window and could see mil on sofa, he knocked on window and she carried on watching tv. Banged louder and called to her, then rang home telephone- he saw her turn volume up on tv to drown out noise so he left. He says he's done with her.

I am torn- part of me feels relieved, another part guilty for not "trying harder" with her. Also a bit scared of what will happen next.

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Goingtobeawesome · 06/05/2017 16:30

Enjoy the relief. Don't feel guilty and don't feel scared. Your dh is backing you up. That's worth something.

Trb17 · 06/05/2017 16:35

Your MIL is a nasty vile person. Leave her to rot in her own self imposed strop.

Invite your FIL to yours in his own. It's up to him to grow a pair if he wants to see his GC.

pluck · 06/05/2017 16:45

She must have been so excited, sitting there, "ignoring" the banging! Call her bluff! (And FIL has to step up, too!)

Justmadeperfectflapjacks · 06/05/2017 16:59

She doesn't sound like nice gm material to me. .
Why would you want a woman who has such little respect for you to be around your dc? That's not good for them surely? Sounds like nc is df the way to go.

Hope fil gets some balls soon.

Purplepicnic · 06/05/2017 17:20

I don't want dc to not have a relationship with their grandparents

I'm not picking on you specifically but I see this said so, so often in this type of situation. Why do you want your children to have a relationship with unpleasant people? Just because they happen to be biologically related?

Astro55 · 06/05/2017 17:27

Well leave DH to deal with his parents - it's his choice at the end of the day - don't fret but offer him some support

I'd also assume he wider family knows exactly what she's like

TheNoodlesIncident · 06/05/2017 17:28

"...mil won't allow him to visit without her" But how could she stop him? I would want to continue contact with FIL but if MIL wants to ignore her own dc and gdc then she's made her choice.

Surely if your DH tells his siblings how she has chosen to behave, they will be on side with him? It's not acceptable in any way, and you don't have to tolerate it.

You don't have anything to feel guilty about from what you've said here.

NellieFiveBellies · 06/05/2017 17:36

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justkeepswimmingg · 06/05/2017 17:46

Don't feel bad. Be happy that your DC will not have to go through the same emotional abuse that your DH and his siblings faced growing up. I'd be relieved not having to see her again.

YorkshireTree · 06/05/2017 17:58

I would dob her in to FIL for that as well.

embo1 · 06/05/2017 18:04

Shame for PIL to lose out... Can you invite him on his own or see him when she's not in?

ollieplimsoles · 06/05/2017 18:10

He says he's done with her.

Horray! The circus is fucking over. Seriously op she has no business being any sort if gparent to your children. She sounds almost exactly like my mil tbh, right down to the lovely but enabling fil.

Job done, lucky escape, move on.

ShoutOutToMyEx · 06/05/2017 18:10

Imagine how you would feel if DH treated your child how you say MIL treated, and still treats, him and you.

Think about how you would react.

Then think about whether FIL really is a nice person,

Xanadu44 · 06/05/2017 18:19

Wow. You don't need anyone toxic like that in your life and your DC definitely doesn't. Life is too short for ridiculous situations like that. Turning the volume up on the tv to not hear the phone?!?! You're definitely doing the right thing.

WhaleOfATale · 06/05/2017 18:37

Thanks for responses- I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking she's horrible!

Me & do have looked at responses and have realised that we need to follow through on this NC (or very very LC at extended family events if unavoidable). As said in original post, I kind of got the impression that she may have had pnd when dh & his siblings were younger and had hoped that she'd be able to be there for her gc but can see now that this was a mistake.

I think all of us (fil, duh, extended family and I) have just got into a pattern of enabling her behaviour as, when she is "good", she can be really nice. However, looking back, it is clear that she is good when she has crossed a line and rather than apologise, she just pretends it hasn't happened and puts some effort into having a relationship for a few days/weeks/months until she is confident she can slip back to her normal behaviour.

ShoutOut has made an excellent point about fil as I would never allow dh to treat our dc the way mil has treated her children and it has made me see him in a new light really. I know we have all enabled her to some extent but they have been together for over 30yrs and has had many opportunities to "make a stand" both for himself and for his family.

We have not heard anything from him this afternoon which has made me wonder what he has been told as, if I was expecting a visit, I would wonder why they hadn't turned up!

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starbug1 · 06/05/2017 21:01

Agree with PP that you don't need people like that in your life. And with regards to wanting the children to have a relationship with grandparents, I've seen articles about families who for whatever reason aren't in touch with their own grandparents and get to know an old person in their area who is lonely and missing that sort of relationship. Doesn't always work (people won't necessarily gel) and probably too soon for you to consider but I like the idea of reaching out to neighbours/the elderly in the community as it could be mutually beneficial and based on respect rather than obligation.

ohfourfoxache · 06/05/2017 21:36

Unfortunately just because she is now a grandmother, it doesn't mean that she is going to turn into a nice person.

Please protect your dc from this awful woman

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