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About DS drinking milk

273 replies

darwinsbabe · 23/04/2017 12:34

I have a DS who is almost 3.

My DH drinks water all the time and we encourage my son to do the same but he always refuses and asks for milk instead. Even with the lure of diluting juice he will opt for milk. My DH thinks he drinks too much milk and not enough water and gets worked up about it. I'm just glad he's drinking and it's something healthy.

Aibu to tell my husband to calm down and continue to let my DS drink milk?

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TinselTwins · 25/04/2017 19:41

You don't think all fluids are equally hydrating, do you? And you're calling tosh at other people?

In people who don't have electrolyte imbalances or are dangerously malnourished, yes, 100mls of fluid gives your body 100mls of fluid. What else is it going to do?

mumof3boys33 · 25/04/2017 19:42

I saw the programme too, about the people drinking milk being the most hydrated. The people doing the experiment thought the milk drinkers would be the least hydrated.

TinselTwins · 25/04/2017 19:49

Mumofthreeboys

tahini: 680mg calcium per 100g (good in brownies! or instead of peanut butter in peanut butter & jelly sandwiches, also in hummus)

Seasame seeds 670mg calcium per 100g

Sardines (okay not THAT popular with kids..) 560mg calcium per 100g

Tofu 510mg calcium per 100g

Seaweed (my kids like making veggie sushi) 430mg calcium per 100g

Canned salmon 300mg calcium per 100g

Almonds 240mg calcium per 100g (more brownies! :-D )

Figs 230 mg calcium per 100g

Hazel nuts 140mg calcium per 100g

Dried pineapple 120 mg calcium per 100g

Red kidney beans (who doesn't like nachos??) 71 mg calcium per 100g with Tortilla chips 150mg calcium per 100g

The adult RDA is 700mg/day

LilQueenie · 25/04/2017 19:52

Im assuming its dairy milk and not alternative. At least he is drinking but do be careful he doesn't get a lot of sore throats with it. Too much dairy can do that.

kateandme · 25/04/2017 19:58

milk is really good for you
some dairy farmers are amazing.some aren't just like is in life. there are ones that treat cows like family.
people shouldn't listen to hearsay bout screaming cows!
british farmers have saved the veal cow from extinction and cruelty not always practised in other countries

ChickenMe · 25/04/2017 20:02

My daughter enjoys the unsweetened almond milk as she is a milk fiend and cows gives her rashes. She doesn't know the difference.

TinselTwins · 25/04/2017 20:41

some dairy farmers are amazing.some aren't just like is in life. there are ones that treat cows like family

The only farmers I've ever seen treat cows "like family" were beef farmers who hand reared male calves long enough to get them to the abattoir

You coiuldn't be a dairy farmer and be sentimental about the amimals you are separating from their babies !

CoteDAzur · 25/04/2017 21:16

"You coiuldn't be a dairy farmer and be sentimental about the amimals you are separating from their babies !"

Of course. Just like you couldn't love your domestic cat and give away her litter.

Oh wait.

TinselTwins · 25/04/2017 21:21

You DON'T love your domestic cat if you sell its kittens when prematurely!

skerrywind · 25/04/2017 21:22

My kids never drank milk, in fact no dairy at all, they hated it, yogurt cheese etc. none of it.

Weedsnseeds1 · 25/04/2017 22:28

Milk doesn't have pus in. Somatic cell count is a standard test, as is rapid test for antibiotics, before the milk is unloaded from the tanker to the dairy.
Beef calves are frequently from dairy herds, the dairy cow is cross bred with a beef breed bull so that the offspring is suitable for rearing as beef.
You use a dairy bull if you want to produce dairy cows to increase your herd, but there is no money in bobby calves, so it doesn't make sense to produce them unless you actively need dairy cows.

LatinForTelly · 25/04/2017 23:34

TinselTwins: The adult RDA is 700mg/day

Yes and for 11 - 16 year olds it's 800-1000 mg.

CoteDAzur · 25/04/2017 23:36

And that is because we put nearly all the calcium in our bones that we will ever have during puberty.

elkegel · 27/04/2017 03:54

We need calcium but you don't have to get it from dairy products, there are plenty of other sources.

lelapaletute · 27/04/2017 05:35

For the vegans trying to put a scientific spin on their dairy phobia on the hope this will conceal the fact they are trying to foist their ethics on other people, it is worth noting:

A) no foodstuff is 'designed' for humans, or indeed for any other animal

B) a calf. It's called a calf, not a 'baby cow'. Can't think of any reason you'd call it that apart from spurious emotional manipulation tbh. No-one says 'a baby human'. Humans have babies; cows have calves.

elkegel · 27/04/2017 07:25

I'm far from vegan, but kids don't really need to drink milk if they eat a good diet otherwise. Of course it's fine if they like milk, and aren't consuming too many calories overall, but if they eat a lot and have a lot of milk they could end up being overweight. Or sometimes what I see in little kids is they have a lot of milk which is filling them up, which sometimes spoils their appetite. But in moderation it's fine and certainly better than sugary fizzy drinks.

I absolutely hated having milk every day at school and was really glad when that stopped. It put me off milk for years and now I can only have semi-skimmed. So to the person who said "You should have full-fat," no thanks as I hate it. Particularly vile in tea.

elkegel · 27/04/2017 07:30

Re water, I'm glad kids have water bottles in school, I barely used to have a drink all day and got terribly thirsty. It doesn't have to be water that you drink to stay hydrated but it is often the easiest and best thing to have. I drink about 3/4 pints of water a day at my desk as air conditioning makes for a dry environment. Also I don't want to waste calories on drinks, I'd rather eat more food!

skerrywind · 27/04/2017 07:34

elkegel- I agree.

We are a pretty milk free family, plenty other ways to ingest calcium and phosphorous.
I lived in SE asia for a while, very little dairy is consumed there.

My kids have never eaten or drunk animal milk or products, they think they are rank.
I have a son of 6ft 2 and a DD of 5ft 10, Neither with a spot of decay or filling in their teeth.

corythatwas · 27/04/2017 08:02

Why don't we find these weird dehydrating problems in Scandinavia where milk is the daily mealtime drink for children and adults and has been for generations? And why do they have lower obesity rates than the UK?

When I was a child in Scandinavia, everybody drank milk all day long: it was very rare to see an obese or even overweight adult, let alone a child. People generally seemed healthy and active.

I fully get that there are many populations over the world that cannot process the enzymes in milk. But the ones who can and who use milk regularly don't actually tend to have any milk-related health problems.

As for it not being natural- am assuming that the pp who use this argument eat all their food raw. Sticking food in boiling water is hardly more natural than suckling another animal.

Frillyhorseyknickers · 27/04/2017 08:06

My parents are dairy farmers and I grew up at home on the farm. They love their cows dearly, my father has bred a herd over thirty years and they are the centre of his world.

The rubbish on this thread is really sad, the factual inaccuracies in milk nutrition and the industry as a whole 😢

Most dairy farms are small Family farms and their cows are their pride and joy. It's true when they say farming is the art of losing money whilst working 400hours a month to feed people who think you're trying to kill them.

skerrywind · 27/04/2017 08:11

I don't think it matters.

Milk doesn't create or cure these "weird dehydrating problems".

I grew up in the 60s where milk and water were the staple drinks.

Milk can be a nutritious part of a good diet, equally it is not necessary as the nutrients can be found elsewhere.

That's the good thing about us humans, we are very adaptable.

londonrach · 27/04/2017 08:20

Im beginning to see why ive had so many patients with problems in my clinic if thats what people are thinking. Milk has alot of benefits in moderation like most things to the human body. Finds like im reading the sun here. Op as long as hes not just drinking milk and having a balanced diet. Its not like you giving him coke cola. Im hiding this thread now.

derxa · 27/04/2017 08:22

I'm exactly the same frilly. My grandfather was one of the first to import Friesian cows from Holland. Our family were proud of their achievements. People want cheap milk. That's the problem.

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