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AIBU?

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Aibu to ask her to clean up the fucking cake.

507 replies

Bigharibostrawberries · 22/04/2017 17:06

So over the holidays I've had a particular group of friends around. We met at baby group and now my only DD is seven, while they have gone on to have more. There's about half a dozen in the group and some I'm closer to than others, but in general we've got on well.

I live in a house with a bigger than average garden, and I used to be a childminder, so my house was always the obvious place to meet, and for a long time I didn't mind, but recently I've been feeling differently.

DD is at the age where she doesn't make so much of a mess, so we've been redecorating, buying a few nice bits for the house and garden. When my friends visit, their children just pull the place apart. Well, some are OK, there's a few in particular that are just really rough. I know small children will do that, and I childproof my house as much as possible, but if I'm honest DD certainly wasn't allowed to do it at other people's houses and they don't even attempt to get their children to stop. I've had things smashed, walls drawn on etc. These children have managed to damage my house more than all my mindees put together, so I don't think I'm being precious

So as not to drip feed, DH and I have struggled with secondary infertility, and our one shot at IVF failed just before Christmas. It has been hard, but we are moving on and I now feel very much done with babies and toddlers. Maybe that's why my patience is wearing thin. We've also had lots going on with new jobs, family illness etc, and I could have done with some support, but felt very sidelined when I tried to talk to my friends. One of the group has constant marital problems which tend to dominate.

So they visited a few days ago and I wasn't particularly looking forward to it, but I made Easter nests, organised a little egg hunt etc. Some of them didn't bring their eldest children due to other commitments, and the 6/7 year olds who did come were three boys that DD doesn't really get on with, so essentially I was entertaining a group of babies and toddlers while the older boys tore off down the garden and DD sat and played on her own. I was a bit annoyed at that to begin with. I decided I was going to be a bit firmer over the wrecking the house issue, so when one child started grinding cake into the carpet, I asked him to sit at the table to eat it. His mum is the one who dominates conversation, bit of a queen bee if I'm honest, and she got really arsey and said "he's fine where he is". I pointed out he was squashing the cake everywhere, and she said "for goodness sake, he's only two."

And, well, this is where I was probably unreasonable, but I said "ok then, I'll just leave a little packet of wipes on the table if you wouldn't mind cleaning it up when he is finished?"

She said "excuse me?" and I sort of laughed and said "the cake- it will save me hoovering it later". She didn't say a word to me after that, had a face on her like a busted boot, and soon left, without saying goodbye.

We have a group Whatsapp, and later that afternoon I was removed from the group. I texted another of the mums who I am closest to and asked why. She said cake mum had removed me because she felt unwelcome in my house, my IVF failure had made me bitter, she felt threatened, I was jealous of her baby etc.

I said that's fine and as far as I was concerned she could fuck off, and she wouldn't be welcome in my house anymore

Cue a flurry of fb and whatsapp messages from the other mums, telling me I needed to apologise to cake mum because I had been unfair and I'd forgotten how tiring it was to have small children, that sort of thing.

If I'm honest I started to think maybe they were right. I was a bit sick of them all coming round and yes it was hard at times to be surrounded by babies /pregnancy when we were struggling

At this point DH came home
I showed him the texts. He said that in his opinion they were shitting themselves because now they had nowhere to go to be fed/ignore their kids. Also that even if I made it up with them, he didn't want them to come round en mass again, because he had thought for some time that they were taking the piss out of me. Basically he put the foot down,which is something DH rarely does.

So by this point I had been readded to the whatsapp group. I told cake mum that I was sorry for anything I had said to upset her, and I hoped we could all remain friends. I then said that perhaps in future we could meet at a park or something which would be easier for all concerned.

Cake mum and some of the other mums then got arsey, said I clearly didn't want them round my house, I couldn't cope with my ivf related bitterness and

OP posts:
glueandstick · 22/04/2017 18:50

Fuck me, just seen the cake. Omg I love it. I'll be a new friend. You're my sort.

Formalyknownas99 · 22/04/2017 18:50

...and for the record, we are now NC...and I am actually relieved...you will be too! X

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 22/04/2017 18:50

Even if you were being upright and unrealistic about the cake (and you really weren't), it's your house so your rules. Bringing up the ivf takes her from entitled and rude to spiteful mean bitch.

giraffesCantReachTheirToes · 22/04/2017 18:52

Bloody hell so rude. Better without them

notborntothemanor · 22/04/2017 18:52

YADNBU. New friends! How mean of them to blame/raise your IVF failure in this context. Ugh.

Frouby · 22/04/2017 18:52

Fuck the lot of them OP.

I had a antenatal group on here that progressed to fb. About 50 of us. When ds was 2 I fell out with them on fb over a political issue.

Blocked 80% of them. Haven't met up with any of them since. I feel so much better. Having dcs of the same age isn't enough to guarantee friendship.

Norma27 · 22/04/2017 18:54

I have an 8 year gap between my two girls. My other friends don't have young children like mine but if i was at their house I would bloody well stop her making such a mess. If she did then i would tidy it up.
You sound lovely and hope you find some decent friends soon.

User2468 · 22/04/2017 18:54

They're not friend's, how fucking unsupportive.

Didyoumeantobesorude1 · 22/04/2017 18:56

Normally this isn't recommended, but in this instance - please send them all the link to this thread. What a bunch of selfish horrible women.

HoldBackTheRain · 22/04/2017 18:56

This is the best response I've ever read on MN to an entitled arse like cake mum. I want you to be my friend, seriously you rock!

You did the right thing in binning these people off - I hope you meet some nicer people soon. If you're in London PM me! Smile

User2468 · 22/04/2017 18:57

Just seen the cake picture, I think I want to be your friend.

I do come with a cake eating two year old but I try to keep him in the garden, I'll bring my Dyson just in case ;-)

itsnotterrysitsmine · 22/04/2017 18:57

OP you are a legend! That fuck you cake was truly inspired & the perfect response to such twattish behaviour from so called friends.

Nothing you did was unreasonable at all, I have 2 very 'spirited, lively' boys ages 4 & 5 & they have never done anything like this in someone else's house. Any mess or spillages have been cleared up by me, Dh or them as appropriate without the need to be asked - it's called manners & common courtesy.

As for throwing IVF in your face? That is beyond cruel, unnecessary & completely out of order. You have every right to feel whatever you do feel about it without any judgement or speculation from other people, & expect nothing but support & compassion.

You sound awesome OP, their loss not yours

Sugarpiehoneyeye · 22/04/2017 18:58

You've got a great DH, OP, he has your back !
All good things come to an end, another new door will open for you.
Your daughter had also outgrown this group.
Grinding cake into the carpet, although a toddler, is unacceptable behaviour, and should be corrected.
His mother sounds somewhat entitled, you sound grounded and lovely.
You're hospitality has been wonderful, they'll surely miss it ! 🌺

BeBeatrix · 22/04/2017 18:59

Sometimes you can't stop a toddler spilling something or breaking something at someone else's house, in which case you apologise profusely and offer to pay for the damage.

But grinding cake into the carpet, with a parent doing nothing? Scribbling on the walls? That's horrendous. You're better off without them.

barefoofdoctor · 22/04/2017 19:00

Haven't read the whole thread but going by what I have read, OP you are ace!

Whatsername17 · 22/04/2017 19:00

I love the cake message! I do have young kids, but I have never, in my life, allowed them to behave in such a way as you describe. None have any of my friends. We had people over a few weeks ago who followed their 18 month old twins around with baby wipes after I gave them cake. We have hard wood floors so.i told them not to worry but they still cleaned every last crumb without me asking. That's what I consider normal. That's certainly what I would do too.

Bigharibostrawberries · 22/04/2017 19:01

Oh God I'm so glad you don't all think I'm immature and petty. I'm honestly not one bit brave, it's just that I have this horrible habit of losing my temper really quietly, and going from 0-100 without blinking. Then I do or say something daft. I'm quite laid back and quiet in RL and not much bothers me, but when it does, it DOES. so basically we had the build up of years of hosting (and I honestly didn't mind for a long time, until it got silly) then the cake met the carpet, I got bitched at on WhatsApp, and that was the end of it for me, so I sent the sweary cake pic. Blush like an immature 13 year old.

To whoever asked if we ever met somewhere else - not really. In the summer, yes, unless it was rainy, but from about September to May it's usually at my house. A few times I've actually woke up to the sound of rain on the roof, had a look on my phone, and someone has posted "Oh god it's raining, the park will be a washout" and then there's been a reply "yes, will we just meet at strawberry's place" and then "yes sounds good, see you at 12". On one occasion I had actually suggested the park, because I was feeling like shit, had a mess of an AF, and was recovering from a UTI while DH had worked back to back shifts. Mum, bless her, came round and did my laundry and cleaned my house and I wanted to enjoy it and for it to stay that way. But they basically arranged to land at my.door anyway, and I felt too miserable and weak to say no, silly cow that I was

A PP said the only thing that helped them was limiting contact with babies and parents of small children and I kind of feel that way too, I'm in a different stage of my parenting journey and I want to enjoy it without skivvying for other people's kids

OP posts:
KingsCross88 · 22/04/2017 19:06

Absolute vile fuckers to bring up your IVF!

If you continue your friendships with any of them, make sure it's well away from your house. They've been taking the piss. If they read here I hope some of them recognize themselves and have the decency to feel ashamed.

wornoutboots · 22/04/2017 19:07

My daughter has just turned 2.
If she did this, I'd take the cake off her immediately.
In fact, I'd be asking for a dustpan and brush!

your IVF and fertility struggles are irrelevent!

Bigharibostrawberries · 22/04/2017 19:08

And that's bloody awful about the Wedgewood plate. I'd cry. My lot didn't get time to damage anything precious, but it was only a matter of time because we were starting to put a bit of effort into making the house nice

OP posts:
frieda909 · 22/04/2017 19:09

I know it's probably been said enough but YADNBU. Fuck them! I don't even know you but I'm so proud of you for the cake pic. I hope you captioned it 'go grind THIS into your carpet' or similar.

Calling you 'bitter' because of your failed IVF is so horrible. I don't care if it was out of 'concern', friends just don't say things like that to each other.

If there are one or two good eggs in the group then give it time and I'm sure they'll be back in touch individually. But it sounds like the rest of them aren't worth being friends with, and this group just sounds like a lot of work for you with little to no benefit. Fuck that!

Flowers and Cake for you! (The latter to be eaten nicely at the table with a pack of wipes handy Wink)

Whocansay · 22/04/2017 19:09

I thoroughly admire your response. It was awesome! They fully deserved the cake.

Don't let them wheedle their way back in. Cake mum was really taking the piss and she knows it. That why she stooped so low with the 'bitter' remarks. She is a nasty piece of work. Don't give those bitches another thought. It sounds like they've been using you for a long time.

Aeroflotgirl · 22/04/2017 19:15

Cake mum is one of those eye roll parents, her little darlings can do no wrong. My goodness isen't she an arse. They just want to use you to meet up, to be fed and watered, now that they haven't got a venue. Ask cake mum why doesn't she host instead for a change. Your best off without the lot of them. You are totally right.

rain790 · 22/04/2017 19:15

OP you remind me of me, 0 to 100 in a blink. But youre great for finally stopping the madness, you're my hero and we'd be awesome friends.

Aeroflotgirl · 22/04/2017 19:15

If she did not feel welcome in your home, why the hell does she want to go back to yours! Users, the lot of them.