To dislike Trump slightly less after the news today?

[PatButchersEarring]

..and be bloody pleased that someone is finally doing something in Syria?

have you also seen what his previous position was in the exact same situation four years ago?

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
President Obama, do not attack Syria. There is no upside and tremendous downside. Save your "powder" for another (and more important) day!
2:21 PM - 7 Sep 2013

@Lweji am I missing something about trump with this air strike?
Am watching the news now and he looks like school boy who had been told to do something he does not want to do. Gone ahead with it with his tail behind his legs with no option.

IMO it's a cynical ploy to detract from Russiagate. Copied this from another thread:

Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 5h5 hours ago
(THREAD) The evidence that Trump's completely ineffectual military strike on Syria was just an empty political gesture is now overwhelming. pic.twitter.com/hI6sBgIQX1

(1) If he was worried about the Syrian people, he had numerous better options: allow refugees to come to U.S.; humanitarian aid; safe zones. pic.twitter.com/9XL1xvisxH

(2) If he was interested in degrading Syria's air force, he wouldn't have given Putin advance notice. Putin then gave Assad advance notice.

(3) The result of giving both Russia and Syria advance notice of the air strike was that they moved their troops and bunkered their planes.

(4) One indication Putin knew the strike would be no threat to him or Syria is Russian air defenses didn't try to take down any tomahawks.

(5) If Trump was interested in degrading Syria's flight capability in Homs, he wouldn't have left an air strip untouched. But he did that.

(6) GOP Congressmen and retired generals were saying this air strike would be ineffective. Which is why Trump consulted Putin, but not them.

(7) In 2013, Trump saw the same pictures of chemical-weapon devastation and opposed air strikes. So his "conversion narrative" is a farce.

(8) The strikes successfully pushed Russiagate coverage off the front page. We were talking about Nunes and Kushner scandals, now we're not.

(9) Incredibly—bizarrely—Trump somehow struck Syria with 59 Tomahawk missiles without articulating even a single coherent strategic aim.

(10) For all the talk of Trump's Syrian about-face, he's no more committed to ousting Assad than a week ago, when he expressed no interest.

(BONUS) Trump and Putin can now look like they're at odds—helpful for Russiagate—when in fact Trump's ineffective strike didn't harm Putin.

(UPDATE) Reuters confirms Syria has continued launching strikes from the base Trump hit. This was the most ineffectual US strike in decades.

(PICS 1) Notice that the airfield is still usable. Only one of five aircraft shelters was destroyed. "Damaged" shelters mean intact planes. pic.twitter.com/C1ezEitfgz

(PICS 2) Those runways are easy targets for laser-guided missiles. But Reuters confirms at least one is intact enough to launch warplanes. pic.twitter.com/F8MsgeB1V5

(PICS 3) Here are more intact runways and "damaged" shelters with intact planes beneath them. If the Navy wanted these gone, they would be. pic.twitter.com/s9gttrMFnC

(POSTSCRIPT) I intend no criticism of our military here. I think they followed their orders to the letter. Their orders were simply asinine.

US led coalition airstrikes in Syria killed more civillians in March than Isis and Russia put together. If Trump is so concerned about kid dying in syria he should stop killing them.

What Bore said.

Reasons why America may not like Syria

1. Syria dropped the US dollar
2. Syria has oil and gas reserves
3. Syria banned GMO seeds
4. Syria has no IMF debt
5. Syria's central bank is state owned

I really hope there isn't another war like in Iraq due to wanting control of a countries resources.

The price of oil has also gone up. Someone has been making money

If trump is so concerned about those beautiful babies, he should offer them and their families refuge.

He didn't do it for the babies.

Oh ffs. If labour had not voted against military action against syria we wouldn't be in this situation now. Trump is loathsome that doesn't mean he's wrong here. The conspiracy theorists are laughable. Do you not think Assad is capable of this. Sometimes not doing something is worse. And no there are no guarantees. Are we never to act again despite endless atrocities because 'iraq'

Oh dear. It's now labours fault.

1. Syria dropped the US dollar
2. Syria has oil and gas reserves
3. Syria banned GMO seeds
4. Syria has no IMF debt
5. Syria's central bank is state owned

Yup! This is exactly what I came across years ago. Also, it was the same reason given for Iraq and another country I can't remember.

Bore thanks for that post. That's what I thought. You have clarified it for me.

@birdsdestiny I think it's more complicated than labour saying no. Look at the bigger picture. A lot of countries are gaining from all this.

Syria being one of them.

Oh ffs. If labour had not voted against military action against syria we wouldn't be in this situation now

So nothing to do with Obama previously trying and not getting enough votes?

birdsdestiny

What do you think Trump has accomplished exactly by bombing an airfield after warning the Syrians and the Russians?

How does that improve the lives of the children caught in the conflict?

What if this strike really annoys Russia?

Sure, just go and do something, whatever, regardless of what it can achieve and screw any consequences.

Obama tried so hard to do something the "right" way. Not labours fault, not Obama's fault.

It may make Assad think twice about doing it again. If we had acted previously the chemical weapon attack may have been avoided. I will be very clear I think Trump is very dangerous, I spent hours of my life that I will never get back, argueing with claig on the Trump threads, but the inaction of the West on Syria is chilling. We should be ashamed.

So Assad gasses Syrian children. Assad and Putin are chums. Trump and Putin are chums. Trump called Putin to warn him or more likely get his approval. They bombed an empty airstrip with 59 fucking missiles. What the fuck did they want to hide? What was on the airstrip? Because it sure as fuck wasn't going to help anyone is Syria to bomb an empty airstrip. I call complete bullshit. Putin and Assad had something horribly damning on that airstrip and they used Trump to take it out. Trump gives not one fuck about a kid in Syria. The whole thing is terrifying.

It may make Assad think twice about doing it again

I wish I could be as optimistic.

But not for an empty airstrip.

What Inigo Montoya says about refugees:

No. He's an idiot and is treating everyone else like one by pretending that he is saving "beautiful.........babies".

At the very least he has taken it upon himself to punish another regime for an atrocity to deflect attention away from his relationship with Putin a regime. Who knows, maybe even it's a set up between them?

So, OP and others, do you still feel the same now you have read the thread responses? Please don't make the mistake of thinking ANY of the US actions have concern for innocent babies at their heart.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/07/convenient-u-turn-president-who-cant-be-trusted

^^ this

YABVU, BoreOfWhabylon hit the nail on the head.

Trump did what he claimed Hilary Clinton would do, criticizing her heavily, and saying she would drag us into WW3.

What was the point? He has flexed his power, that is all.

Indeed.

German satire shows have described it as initation ceremony - he had to throw some bombs without getting it legally authorised so that people would take him seriously.

I think that's the heart of the matter.

The only good thing the Trump government has done so far is to "withdraw a piece of federal guidance requiring transgender students to have unfettered access to bathrooms and locker rooms" of the other sex.
And that was only because there's some overlap between misogynist, racist men and conservative men who do want to keep their women as private property and not have to their them with other men.

There are very few instances where throwing bombs achieves anything positive, and since we are talking about Trump here, who has so far shown that he is incompetent in every possible way, I have no reason whatsoever to believe that he even aimed those bombs at military bases.
Most likely, he bombed some orphanages.

Trump did what he claimed Hilary Clinton would do, criticizing her heavily, and saying she would drag us into WW3

And I am not surprised at all.

Honestly, this was to be expected. He lied about everything, and frequently accused Clinton of things when he did the same, or worse.