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To feel upset about what my friends said?

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ProfessorPickles · 07/04/2017 12:17

I am months away from finishing university and when people hear this I often get "what do you want to do after university?" And I tell them and we discuss it etc and it's all fine.

However, my best friend (although we haven't been close for a while so maybe not best) and her boyfriend (also a really good friend of mine from school) have both made comments that have upset me.

First was from her, it had come up a few months back that I'll be finishing uni soon and she was like "what're you going to do after though? You have to actually do something" in a bitchy tone but laughing it off like it's a joke IYSWIM?
So I told her I wasn't sure yet and she rolled her eyes "jokingly" but I could sense she was annoyed. It was never mentioned again but I was hurt she spoke that way to me. I know a LOT of people who don't know what they want to do after university so it's hardly unusual.

So, last night I was out with friends and her boyfriend, also my friend, was there but she wasn't. He asked how long I had left so I said 5 weeks. And he asked what I was going to do when I leave and I said that I plan to work part time and do some volunteering for 18 months then start my teacher training when my son starts school September 2018.
His response was exactly like hers, in a jokey way but you could tell he was annoyed and said "yeah but that won't pay the bills!" And I said "I've just said I will be working" and it got joked about and left again.

I have worked so hard to go to university starting when he was only 1 and I've worked non stop to get the best results again while trying to be a good mum and keep on top of the house work. The first year I coped fine, the second I was half and half. And now in final year I'm happy to admit I'm absolutely exhausted and almost not coping because it is so demanding to be a full time student and single parent.
If I started my teacher training now I don't think I'd cope, or I would but not so as well as I know I could.
Hence my plan for 18 months working and getting plenty of work experience ready to apply in September this year for a 2018 start. I am desperate for a break from education, I need to take it easier and enjoy my son instead of constantly feeling exhausted and struggling to do it all.

I think this is a perfectly reasonable plan, I'm going to be working 3-4 days a week so it isn't like I've said "I'm not going to work for 18 months then do my teacher training", I could understand their reaction if so.

I don't understand what their problem is, I haven't had this reaction from anyone else.
I literally collapse onto the settee every evening the past few months because I'm putting every minute I have into my degree.

I feel like they're suggesting I'm lazy but I've always worked, I'm on a full time course and looking after my young son so I can't see how they've got that impression.
They've had life handed to them on a plate (a HUGE amount of money from their parents) so maybe they're money orientated and expect me to feel the same?
A friend thinks they might be jealous for various reasons but I'm not sure why anyone would be jealous

AIBU to feel upset that they're talking to me in this way? They're clearly annoyed at me for something and I feel judged

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ProfessorPickles · 08/04/2017 21:11

One has been to university and the other hasn't. No kids!

I've absolutely loved my course but I'm always open about the times when I'm really struggling or finding it stressful.

I told a friend about it last night and she had the same reaction, that it's jealousy stemming from somewhere. Funnily enough she told me what I always tell others, that nasty and negative behaviour always stems from insecurity because happy people don't say hurtful things, especially to friends.

Maybe they don't like that I'm single, independent and happy when I'm in a position where people assume you'll be miserable and struggle?

Thanks again for the supportive messages, when someone who's supposed to be your friend says something like that it makes you doubt yourself. It's made me worry other people have a problem with me but actually there's a very big difference between a friend saying in private they're concerned or unhappy about something, than being confrontational like they have in front of others.

If either of them comments again I'm going to have to try my best to call them out on it. Although my worry is other people will be there so they'll play it off as a joke!

I'm dying to know what the issue is!

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ProfessorPickles · 08/04/2017 21:19

What a wonderful thing to say MiddleClassProblem, thank you so much.
I will be incredibly proud when my 4 year old son will be there at my graduation!

User - love the secret job working for the government idea Grin

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Sunbeam18 · 08/04/2017 21:28

Your finances are none of their business, or that of the 'baffled' posters on this thread!

SabineUndine · 08/04/2017 21:39

They sound materialistic and the sort of people who get graduate openings with blue-chip companies because of the money rather than because they want to do something interesting and useful like teaching.

Ignore them. You may find you no longer have much in common with them once you've finished.

highinthesky · 08/04/2017 21:44

Your life, your definition of success.

With friends like these you don't need enemies.

Headofthehive55 · 08/04/2017 21:46

Your plan is realistic and a good one. Teaching courses often need some experience to get on them.
Working part time when you gave a child? Like a lot of others there then.
I think it's just something people say. Annoying I know!

Hadjab · 08/04/2017 21:52

"Your finances are none of their business, or that of the 'baffled' posters on this thread!"

^^This!!

gammaraystar · 08/04/2017 22:00

They are not your friends. Tell them to fuck off and concentrate on the people qho really matter. They sound like pretentious arseholes.

Wando1986 · 08/04/2017 22:20

Congratulations with sticking at it, but University is pretty much pointless these days unless you're already in a specific career or wish to go down a very specific path. Teacher training being one of them, however EVERYONE who is everyone is doing 'teacher training' at the moment and most don't last past the first 18 months because the jobrole is horrific in real life. It's the 'psychology' or 'art degree' of the past few years and it bugs people I guess. Everyone I know who did it now works in a totally different career.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 08/04/2017 22:27

My dd is 5 weeks away from finishing uni. She has no DC and is planning to do the same as you - taking 12-18mths doing a "filling in" job whilst she decides what to do with the rest of her life. DH and I think she's being really sensible and not rushing in to something she may regret. She also needs a break!
We've noticed people BILs and others doing the sneery "when is she getting a proper job." it's bloody infuriating!

So I think you're definitely doing the right thing. Fuck everyone else! Do what's right for you!

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 08/04/2017 22:29

Id also add that this generation will be working well into their 70s. You've got 50 odd years of work! Take your time, find something you love and don't stress about it x

glueandstick · 08/04/2017 22:31

Fuck em. You're doing amazingly.

Real friends would offer to give you a break or bring you little treats.

You should be so proud of what you have achieved. If we were friends I'd regularly bring you cake to keep you going.

TheElephantofSurprise · 08/04/2017 22:31

OP, you are right and they are wrong. There's no hurry. You'll work full time, earn, pay taxes, do whatever it is they are worrying about, for years and years. Take it steady. No rush.

Good luck. And well done so far. I did it your way. It's bloody hard work.

glueandstick · 08/04/2017 22:34

(Btw. This bit of the final year sucks terribly. It'll be over soon enough. The day it's all done feels a bit weird and empty. I went out to celebrate with the biggest burger I could find, only the stress of the last term had caused me to clench my jaw for so long that I couldn't open my mouth. That was a long meal posting in small bits of food!!)

YellowCrocus · 08/04/2017 22:52

I think jealousy...I came from a background where not many people went into HE and experienced this when I did my degree. Educating yourself is never a bad thing. Ignore them. You're doing great. Teaching is a rough slog though, especially when you have children. I managed five years, but now work in something related so it wasn't a wasted journey. I completely disagree that teaching is the 'arts degree' of the modern world (having done both, I feel qualified to judge!) An arts degree is a pleasant piece of piss. Teacher training is vigorous. People who do teacher training have to be fantastically committed and enthusiastic, or you would never survive the course. The fact that many teachers are not teaching after a few years is not the fault of the people, the expectations of the job are impossible.

dowhatnow · 08/04/2017 22:53

Is it because they think you'll be receiving benefits while working part time?

ProfessorPickles · 08/04/2017 23:06

Glueandstick - you are the type of friend that I dream of, cake is truly the way to my heart.

To those warning that being a teacher is difficult and that many leave after a few years, I am definitely taking this into consideration. I have a couple of relatives who work in education and they've spoke to me about the realities of the job.
Part of this time "out" is to destress in preparation, but also to ensure I get plenty of work experience so I can make sure I'm absolutely certain that it's what I want.
I know a few people who have rushed into teaching, especially because their subjects grant them a £25k bursary while training.

I'm also planning on volunteering in other areas where possible to see if I end up going down another route as there are a few things I want to experience and learn more about

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