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Original poster

To be heartbroken over Michael Jackson's death still

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brexitstolemyfuture · 06/04/2017 13:44

All this kardashian nonsense about pepsi and boycotts saying how awful they are. But i still boycott them because of the injory mj had while filming an advert that most probably started his drug and surgery addictions.

It's just all so sad, an abusive father, drug dependancy, body mh issues, corporate greed and the loss of such a talented performer :(

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PortiaCastis · 06/04/2017 13:59

Can't get upset over a kiddie fiddler.

londonrach · 06/04/2017 14:00

Seriously! Would you let this strange man near your children. Yabu. Still cant believe he got away with it.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 06/04/2017 14:02

I think actually mourning his death in the first place is odd - you didn't actually know him

Eight years on, I think you should go and see someone who might be able to help

floraeasy · 06/04/2017 14:02

Leaving aside whether he was a decent person or not. It's been 8 years and he's not even someone you actually knew personally...is heartbroken not a bit strong?

This ^

It really is time to move on, no matter who the celeb in question is.

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brexitstolemyfuture · 06/04/2017 14:03

I think it's best this topic gets removed (hopefully) I'll request and hide it. The world is already dark enough at the moment without a withunt based on guess work. :(

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AtSea1979 · 06/04/2017 14:03

Sorry you feel this way but it's not grief. You are using MJ death to hide behind rather than deal with your mental health issues properly.

KatieScarlett · 06/04/2017 14:03

And he despised his family with the exception of his leech mother.
Quite rightly, they were repulsive.
MJ was an addict. His death was no surprise. He used his power to have a dodgy doctor bought, to give him the drugs he wanted.
The man was no hero, great artist in his day though.

Mulberry72 · 06/04/2017 14:04

YABU. He was a vile paedophile.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 06/04/2017 14:04

You know this isn't a terribly rational response to a celebrity death? Whether or not he was a good person?

ILikeyourHairyHands · 06/04/2017 14:06

The only good thing Micheal Jackson ever did was get stage invaded by Jarvis Cocker.

I really was flummoxed by why anyone liked his music, for t'was shite.

Deeply disturbed individual to boot.

So in answer to your question, yes YABVVVU (and a little bit a strange).

Onlyaplasticbagdear · 06/04/2017 14:08

People's families often defend them to the hilt. There is a rapist and abuser in my family. The majority of the family insist he's a great guy

liquidrevolution · 06/04/2017 14:08

Yabu. His music was shite.

TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge · 06/04/2017 14:10

I was absolutely gutted when MJ died, and I had tickets to see him too :( waited sooo long for that chance!

Anyway, I still love MJ so nerr. And no, I do not believe his was a child abuser. Misguided and a slightly tortured soul? Yes. Abuser? No!

trulybadlydeeply · 06/04/2017 14:11

OP, I think it is a concern that you are heartbroken over the death of someone you didn't know. However you could harness these feelings - there will be many in your community around you who have suffered abuse, have issues with drugs, and mental health issues - and who would be grateful of your support, whether that is through volunteering, campaigning or fundraising.

EdmundCleverClogs · 06/04/2017 14:11

If you're still here Brexit, and actually genuine, I honestly think you need to speak to someone. This isn't an ok way to feel about a long-dead singer you didn't know.

ArtemisiaGentilleschi · 06/04/2017 14:17

Is that you Janet? If not, then yes, as others have said, yabu to be a) heartbroken about someone you never knew b) 8 yrs on c) someone who at best was ambiguous and misguided in his behaviour, both to other people's children and his own.

muffinbluffer · 06/04/2017 14:32

Only yes, the denial around child abuse is terrifying, particularly within families...same within my family..my mother actually still invites my father over for dinner even after she said it was 'obvious he abused you'..I have chosen to go no contact with her....I was always rather flummoxed at how blind people chose to be over MJ's obvious crimes....most people never report child abuse and if they do the ordeal of court proceedings would be re-traumatising....as for the OP, well, our heroes are heroes for a reason - they are unreal, carefully constructed facades that don't really represent anything of the true person beneath...you're not really grieving for the person but the image of that person you have in your head that perhaps represents something else for you.....

unicorn1225 · 06/04/2017 15:18

OP I used to be obsessed with MJ since the age of 12. Still love his music and some of his videos never fail to cheer me up if im in a bad mood, but yeah I'd agree YABU to be "heartbroken" as its been 8 years and we didn't know him personally.... sorry.

I have to say though, being a "whacko fan" I have done a fair bit of research on him. Whilst he had many problems and certainly was no angel or "peter pan" character like he portrayed himself in the media, I really DONT believe he was a paedophile.
I'm not surprised a lot of people do though, as the headlines focused on the allegations and failed to mention the real details in each case - and why he WAS found innocent.

when I was young a local man was arrested for having illegal images containing minors on his home and work computers, he tried to deny it/pass blame but then they traced it on another laptop he owned and he was arrested. HE HAD DELETED ALL THE IMAGES - he was tech savvy and had tried to wipe them from the hard drive from the other computers but the police could find them/trace them.

The investigation into Michael Jackson was massive, they had more of the SB police on the case than they would for a serial killing. the chief prosecutor was desperate to get him as it would make him a hero. They searched all of Michael Jacksons house/computers/laptops and all they found was LEGAL heterosexual porn. he had 20years worth of playboy, one in his bedside drawer with a tub of Vaseline. The prosecution tried to say he was using this porn to groom young boys - this was them panicking, as all it proved was that he was (albeit a sad lonely) heterosexual man. If someone is into that stuff they would have that stuff, on their web history...
If you actually read the details of the more recent criminal trail the family were known celebrity extortionists, kept changing their story and it was quite obvious they were lying! (the transcripts and police reports can quite easily be found online, if you can be bothered to be enlightened)

Bluntness100 · 06/04/2017 15:27

Whatever he was or wasn't, to mourn someone for this long that you've never even met and didn't know and to boycott a drink over an injury the person sustained whilst filming a commercial, (with an agency it should be noted) is not healthy. It's obsessive to say the least. I'm sorry op, I don't know what else to say other than this isn't on the spectrum of healthy behaviour.

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