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to think kenlivingstone is factually wrong when he said hitler supported zionism

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bluegreenyellow · 05/04/2017 00:59

as he killed millions of the in gas chambers ect

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HellonHeels · 20/04/2017 02:45

Vanessa Feltz has a first in English from Cambridge. Requires a certain intelligence to achieve that. No need for the vitriol about her.

scaryclown · 20/04/2017 05:44

You can go to Cambridge and be thick. Cambridge doesn't select the brightest in the country, it makes do with the best of the people that apply to Cambridge.

Redsrule · 20/04/2017 06:26

Sorry scary but that is daft, whatever your personal opinion of Vanessa Feltz is, she is academically very intelligent. You might not like her opinions and think they are naive/stupid but that does not make her "thick".

HellonHeels · 20/04/2017 10:15

I am Grin at the idea of Cambridge "making do" with its applicants.

scaryclown · 20/04/2017 10:50

It does - Cambridge doesn't select from the best, its massively skewed to public schools, because really high performing pupils from other schools simply don't apply to Oxbridge as a rule, or even the top ten universities. Its a well known oddity, the application bias.

I've even met straight A students from public schools who applied to midranking univerities because they didn't think they were Oxbridge types. There are thousands and thousands of students with top grades who don't apply to Oxbridge, and if you believe that public schools tend to raise grades more than state schools, then that means some relative thickies will get through.

I'm saying this because I lived with two Cambridge graduates who were astonishingly stupid - even in their subject area. The one characteristics they both had, but one way more than the other, was that their stupidity was 'more correct' than your intelligence, even if they were clearly wrong (about a particular branch of economics in which I am particularly conversant!) The one characteristic that explained it was that they were so subject focuses that they found it extremely hard to draw in, understand, or combine perspectives from more than one discipline to address a problem.

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