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To find Diane Abbott hugely annoying, even when i agree with what she is saying

130 replies

brexitstolemyfuture · 03/04/2017 08:10

Is it just me, or is her voice very annoying - fake and patronising. Funny thing is but i often agree with her.

If she had professional help to speak like that they should be sacked imo.

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SamanthaBrique · 04/04/2017 05:19

Well no, time doesn't heal everything, but what she did is hardly on par with voting for cuts that target the vulnerable while claiming it was for the best, or voting for the Iraq war.

PetalMettle · 04/04/2017 05:28

She's awful. I do agree her sleeping with corbyn is irrelevant though.
I got no reply when I emailed her about gay marriage and she's a useless constituency MP from what I can see whereas Emily was actually a good one, and ok when I used to meet her for work.

FrenchLavender · 04/04/2017 05:58

Maybe not in terms of how many people her decision affected directly, but I think that as a politician if you can't even practice your own firmly held and loudly spouted principles then WTF is the point of your existence exactly? And how can you expect anything you say to be taken seriously ever again?

MuseumOfCurry · 04/04/2017 06:01

I can't believe that she and Corbyn have HAD SEX.

Anyway, she's a typical Labour politician. Do as I say, not as I do.

PetalMettle · 04/04/2017 06:58

To be fair to corbyn (which I rarely am) he divorced his wife over her decision to send their kid to a selective school

Capricorn76 · 04/04/2017 07:03

Personally I would never sacrifice my child's future at the alter of my ideals. I would do all I could to give them every advantage I could. I don't care if that makes me a hypocrite.

Capricorn76 · 04/04/2017 07:05

What I meant to add was that we can only work within the system we have not the system we wish to have. I wish everything was fair and that every school gave every child the same opportunities but they don't so whilst this is the case I will work hard to ensure my child succeeds in an unfair system.

BillSykesDog · 04/04/2017 07:11

Personally I would never sacrifice my child's future at the alter of my ideals. I would do all I could to give them every advantage I could. I don't care if that makes me a hypocrite.

Capricorn, but the problem is that she is sacrificing everybody else's child but she's not prepared to sacrifice her own. Her party were in government at the time, so it's not like she had it foisted on her. She assisted in the creation of that system.

BillSykesDog · 04/04/2017 07:14

The problem arises when you send your own child to private school while retaining membership of a party ideology opposed to the idea of private schools. She doesn't want you to give your child that opportunity.

TakeThatFuckingDressOffNow · 04/04/2017 07:19

Nicely put Bill's dog!!!

StillDrivingMeBonkers · 04/04/2017 07:27

Her son went to private school because he was special needs and has autism. Not to stop him joining a gang as some of you are making up in your head.

Notwithtanding the rest of us have to use the local comp with its underfunded SEN department.

FrenchLavender · 04/04/2017 07:31

Frankly if you see your ideals as a sacrifice of your child future then perhaps you should be examine your ideals.

FrenchLavender · 04/04/2017 07:31

Examining

BillSykesDog · 04/04/2017 07:37

Bonkers, when asked about why she sent her son to private school Abbott herself said:

I knew what could happen to my son if he was sent to the wrong school and got in with the wrong crowd. I realised they were subjected to peer pressure and when that happens it’s very hard for a mother to save her son. Once a black boy is lost to the world of gangs it’s very hard to get them back and I was genuinely very fearful of what could happen.

I can't find anything about her son having SEN either. She also criticised other Labour members for sending their children to selective schools and opposed private schools publicly on the basis they 'prop up the class system'.

FrenchLavender · 04/04/2017 07:38

Capricorn she did have the system she wanted to have. It was during a long running labour government where state education was overwhelmingly comprehensive and at a time when there had never been more money poured into education or more inclusivity and support for those with learning difficulties and dyslexia. Also she could easily have afforded to move into the catchment of a school better suited to supporting him or to have employed a private tutor. She doesn't have a leg to stand on from where I sit.

WateryTart · 04/04/2017 07:39

No evidence of that, Bonkers

He works at the Home Office now.

She's a hypocrite.

MuseumOfCurry · 04/04/2017 07:44

I knew what could happen to my son if he was sent to the wrong school and got in with the wrong crowd. I realised they were subjected to peer pressure and when that happens it’s very hard for a mother to save her son. Once a black boy is lost to the world of gangs it’s very hard to get them back and I was genuinely very fearful of what could happen.

Race card, nicely played.

The prospects for white, working-class boys who fall into the 'wrong' crowd aren't much better.

Imjustapoorboy · 04/04/2017 07:46

I find her reasoning insulting....that all black boys might join a gang. And that her black middle class son was at risk

Awful politician. I hope the Libdems find someone good to stand against her. It's about time she got a proper job

And what kind of illness prevented her attending the article 50 vote?

stonecircle · 04/04/2017 07:58

YANBU I suppose she can't help it that her face falls into a sneering, self-righteous expression. Unfortunately what comes out if her mouth matches it.

But give me DA over Shami Chakrabati any day if the week.

FrenchLavender · 04/04/2017 07:59

As the son of an Oxbridge graduate with a professional job and a high income his chances are always going to be better than those of a kid whose parents were disadvantaged low achievers themselves, irrespective of his race.

TheNaze73 · 04/04/2017 08:02

As a Conservative, I think she's great. Long may she continue with her rhetoric Grin

FrenchLavender · 04/04/2017 08:04

I agree TheNaze* DA, JC and Ed Miliband have done absolute wonders for the Labour Party from where I'm standing. 😂

Applebite · 04/04/2017 08:04

Bonkers, the comments about her choosing private school because her son was black came from the horse's mouth. As did her other revolting comments about her being a West Indian mum and of course only West Indian mums "go to the wall" for their kids.

I can't bear corbyn's politics, and the thought of him as PM makes me shiver in genuine fear, but at least he seems to abide by them and to have principles. Blair, Harman, Abbott - most of the high profile Labour Party are all "do as I say, not as I do".

makeourfuture · 04/04/2017 08:39

I think perhaps that if we are honest with ourselves here, we might think about the idea that it may be that our ideas regarding Ms Abbot, Ms Chakrabarti....and others.....it may be that we have a preconceived notion about who should be speaking from authority. We may just expect a whiter, more masculine visage.

WateryTart · 04/04/2017 08:41

We may just expect a whiter, more masculine visage.

Nah. Just not hypocrites would do for me.