To be annoyed at being woken up at 4:30am to get food out of the freezer...

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And then for that person to put that food back!

Surely it's not just me? Especially when they've supposedly looked and there was 3-4 joints, different kind of chops, mince, then stuff like burgers/ sausages from the butchers, even cooked meat?!?!

No alcohol involved either!

Fag early 70s he was told before to get something out so probably forgot, tbh our family thinks there may be an issue but we can't force him ( I've spoke to my doctor about it) which adds it's own stress and makes me feel worse af times like this when I'm angry but I was caught off guard

Not all family sleeps like me, my brother and sister get up early often before I'm asleep to go to work parents a little later, It's me and my parents who are up late think they just got in a habit then I had a bad sleeping pattern at university so I often take a bit of time to myself before going to bed and then it ends up a few hours in bed before i sleep normally

No DF hasn't id say it's not regular to most people's but not as bad think 10-11am he wakes up, he used to work nights, many years ago.

An average day for me would probably be wake up shower and dressed ( unless I'm having a very bad time mentally) sort out lunch for people if they haven't already, maybe do some cleaning if need be, or take them to appointments then do dinner watch some TV/ read/ relax which is generally hard because of family issues and in between that for when I'm able to get mentally better try and learn some skills or practice skills so language learning, animation, creative writing (which tbh takes up too much time in one sitting so gets really done it's more outlining ideas), coding, as I had studied to aim for quite a creative job so really it's trying to learn a new form myself, with different language options, and with things going digital I thought it would probably come in handy.

How old are you all still living at home? Must be crowded!

I'm mid-ish 20s DBro and Dsis are hardly here because they work in a different area but I'd say stay semi regularly because of work events that are nearer here. Whilst I should be setting an example I'm stuck in the house basically useless.

This is all quite baffling. If you normally go to bed between 6 and 9 am and don't get up until 3 pm, I don't see why 4.30 am is such a massive problem , tbh.

Because I've been working hard at trying to wake up earlier as that IMO is a big part of the problem two fold for my anxiety, as I struggle to get to sleep and I know this sounds stupid but getting to sleep relatively early takes a lot of effort mentally as it's when a lot of my issues start for example a semi regular one uncomfortable tense arms or tingly arms , which brings on anxious thoughts about my health and if something bad is happening that stops me sleeping for ages until I relax but because I'm staying up because in my head I'm continuously thinking is it something bad this time ( and the next morning I know it's not but in the moment I get freaked out every time) i don't relax for a long while and also.

And if I go to sleep earlier i normally wake up with a panic attack racing heart, or just really panicked, but before when I tried it happened less and less but then a family crisis happened which took me spiralling back to my worst.

And also the second prong of trying to get to sleep earlier and in somewhat a better routine is that by waking up late I essentially wake up when most of the country is winding down so It makes it harder to get help,

So yeah being woken up for such a trivial reason meant:

-being really anxious before hand

• breaking my efforts to get a better sleeping pattern to get help for my anxiety

For example it's 8:17 and I'm gonna try and get some sleep after this message which means I'm gonna struggle to get up early and if I do I'll be really tired which means I'm gonna have to force myself to stay awake tomorrow/ today and not oversleep tomorrow.

• being anxious now

Why did you do it???
Say " Dad it's 4.30 in the morning go to sleep"
Or " what time do you think it is? maybe we need to get you an appointment to talk about this "

Do your parents know you are trying to sort out your sleep?

That would decide if you are being unreasonable or not.

And for what its worth I have been where you are. I am still not going to sleep much before 3am, but its getting better.

What do you do all night when you're awake?

Are you getting medical help for your anxiety? I imagine one thing that would help immeasurably would be to reset your circadian rhythm so that your sleep is on a more 'normal' setting. Anxiety medication can help, have you seen/spoken to your gp recently?

So you're trying to sleep earlier and earlier over time? E.g. 4.30am, then gradually 3.30am, 2.30am?

I think you need to get your family on board, espcially your parents.

If they are also night owls, then they may not fully appreciate your efforts and might like you being up with them?

You could try exercise in the evening it will help to make you tired. What have you tried to help relax you?

Sounds very odd. You all could do with a "no one up after midnight" sort of rule. Or get jobs even voluntary. Something to give you a routine
I became noctural at uni but then went back to the real world and work etc and slept normally. All sounds very odd, i expect if you had your own place on your own you'd get out of this problem of sleeping. Sounds harsh but if you got back into the world of normality i expect some of your anxiety would cease. Being awake til 6am etc then going to sleep is not helping you at all and i expect you're not then doing enough during the day to make yourself tired enough to then go to bed at a normal time. Maybe try exercise? Tire yourself out and then lock your bedroom door when you go to bed.

Have you considered trying to find a night shift job and making a positive of your night owl tendencies? To be honest the hours in your are so erratic I can see why your DF didn't worry too much about the time. If you could get a job you'd be able to leave home fairly soon and night shift is often well paid.

Such a lot wrong with this situation

I'm confused.

Couldn't you get the meat out and defrost it in the microwave just before it was needed? Or even cook it from frozen? (this is a thing, honestly). What was SO IMPORTANT about having to get it out of the freezer beforehand?