To think Keir Starmer will be Labour leader before the end of the year

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and PM at the next General Election

Who looks more like a PM?

Now I need to google Starmer. I've been so disillusioned with the Labour party and Corbyn that I stopped paying attention to anyone specific in politics except my local muppet conservative MP who is really concerned about trees which have leaves that fall and create shadows in the sunlight!

I wouldn't be suprised if he's labour leader.

Corbyn won't go anywhere until the next general election where labour will be wiped out. He's too egotistical to listen to anyone apart from his groupies and is a bloody idiot.

I don't rate starmer.

Why not Yvette?

I quite like Liz Kendall.

Objections to Starmer?

Do you think this country is really, really, going to elect an Oxford educated, QC, Sir anybody who has spent their working career in the legal system albeit mostly on the side of the angels?

How many voters actually know what the DPP does? Still less appreciate that as a type of public service.

If the education and career wasn't enough establishment for you, he represents a London seat, lives in London.....

That his name is the most socialist thing about him (shallow I know)

IDK about Corbyn staying until after Labour suffers it's greatest ever loss at the next election, I've heard many mutterings that he intends to step down beforehand, as long as his allies have managed to work it so he is succeeded by a suitably left of party candidate.
Then again I've also heard that we're all mad and Jeremy is going to lead Labour to a glorious landslide victory in 2020, so hey ho.

Possibly. Labour won't win in 2020 though so I'm not sure the leadership will be an attractive proposition to anyone who thinks they could be PM.

Whoever takes over from Corbyn before the general election will know that they stand very little chance of being Prime Minister. Their job will be to whip Labour into something like decent shape and enable them to retain seats in their heartlands and to try to unify the party. They will then almost certainly step down following the inevitable GE defeat. The candidate that Labour then picks to be its leader will be the one who will need to be potential PM material, with a view to mounting a credible campaign in 2025.

At least that's what I think will happen!

I think it will be Dan Jarvis rather than Kier Starmer too.

Dan Jarvis is my MP and whilst I wouldn't vote Labour in council elections, as a floating voter I would seriously consider voting for Dan Jarvis in the GE, (not that he'd particularly need my vote. As the saying goes, you can pin a red rosette on a donkey and it would get elected around here.)

He seem like a decent bloke and he's a very visible presence around here, unlike our last MP who I couldn't pick out of a line up.

Jarvis will campaign hard to keep his seat. Like all the Yorkshire Labour MPs, he's very mindful of the threat of UKIP, in fact he wrote a report on that issue. If he wins convincingly, it gives him something else as a selling point to Labour as a whole - here is somebody who knows how to win. If he could run against a SNP candidate that would be handy too

He certainly wants to be. Why wouldn't I support him? Rotherham. He was behind the failure to support those young girls because they were "bad". And he doesn't have the excuse of being a Tory, either.

I struggle to understand how people cant see they are being manipulated by the media, whether you like Corbyn or not makes no odds, the media are now touting starmer as the next leader and so many people are just buying into this because 'i read it in the guardian, telegraph think for yourselfs, same with brexit the media have taken us all down the same garden path urgh vent and then hide thread lol

I like him. And he's had a perfectly normal non-privileged upbringing (apart from being a white male I mean). Undergraduate degree is from Leeds as a matter of fact.

However my gut instinct tells me that TM is a real asset to the Tories and will be tough to beat unless something major happens in the next three years (over and above the expected Brexit hassles which I suspect most voters now tune out).

JustAnotherPoster - yes, dear, you're the only one who can think for themselves!

No he hasn't had a non-privileged upbringing! Grammar school, Leeds and then Oxford is not lacking in privilege. Granted it isn't Elton but that's the best that can be said.

Jarvis went to a comp btw. Albeit one in a fairly naice area I believe. Undergraduate degree at Aberystwyth and post grad at KCL. Plus Sandhurst so he knows how to iron

How has no one noticed Clive Lewis yet?

I am not against the idea of Starmer but my ideal next leader would be Sadiq Kahn. He is doing such a good job as London Mayor and seems to have the gravitas Corbyn sadly lacks!

Anyone other than the current useless waste of space in charge of the Labour Party would suit me!

Not leader by the end of the year, but a new Labour leader will be in place by 2020.

I'm gald someone else hasn't forgotten Rotherham, Doncaster, Rochdale,calderdale Keighley and goodness knows where else? But it wasn't just that TwattyMcTwatface He was tied up by PC bullshit just like all the others that failed thopse poor kids, because the abusers were Muslims.

Stephen Kinnock and Yvette Cooper are the ones I'm hoping take over. Don't like Starmer - think his actions (or inaction) regarding Rotherham show us who he is, and I don't like it.

Love the suggestion of a PP about Ed Balls. Think he'd make great leader and PM. Don't think it'll happen though.

Urgh like listening to progress or reading the daily mail.

I like Stephen Kinnock (I have a weird soft spot for his dad too). I'd also love to see Ed Balls back. I like to think it wasn't just his more popular public image after Strictly, but I'd be kidding myself

Snorting at the idea that starmer was on the side of the angels during his legal career. You met the average criminal defendant recently?