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Aibu not to know the birthplace of the Prophet Mohammed?

235 replies

Quodlibet · 25/03/2017 13:39

Just that really. I was unaware until today.

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ghostyslovesheets · 25/03/2017 17:05

it's obvious to most people :)

I know this stuff because it interests me and I have a good head for general knowledge

Beeziekn33ze · 25/03/2017 17:12

Feline dog whistling!
New expression to me but, sadly, I may need to use it!, thank you, those who used it and those who explained this useful expression. Will it make the Oxford Dictionary in years to come?

SlickSock · 25/03/2017 17:22

To be fair Mo hasn't given us all the day off to celebrate his birthday so I don't give a shit where it happened.

Elisheva · 25/03/2017 17:25

*Jesus was invented by the pagan Romans at the time to control the masses....blah blah blah.

Thought most people knew that.*

Most people on the street perhaps, but again not accepted by historians.
People are so dismissive of religions 'It's all bollocks', 'Its all made up' etc. A little bit of knowledge, understanding and respect would go a long way.

VladmirsPoutine · 25/03/2017 17:29

yellow6 Nope. A straw man might perhaps take the shape of me arguing that your point is dismissible due to the fact that you have failed to express it in grammatically correct terms. But that's fairly low bar and I'd never imagine doing such a thing.

ArgyMargy · 25/03/2017 17:39

A strange approach to education, gammaray.

yellow6 · 25/03/2017 17:48

yet noones explained what comment they think in this thread was a dog whistle comment and what its hidden meaning was? i genuinely have no idea they just said it without any evidence

1horatio · 25/03/2017 17:55

It's political messaging employing coded language that appears to mean one thing to the general population but has an additional, different or more specific resonance for a targeted subgroup.

Yup, one of the best recent examples is the white house (under Trump) not mentioning Jews or anti-semitism in their statement for the holocaust remembrance day.... even though it's on the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.
They basically talked about the holocaust but left out the biggest victim demohgraphic.

Which obviously means quite a lot to deniers.
And Sean Spicer then called people being somewhat "disappointed" pathetic.

Littledrummergirl · 25/03/2017 18:12

If yabu then so am I because I had no idea. I have never read the Koran and don't base my beliefs on the religion.
I try to respect that other people do believe in the teachings of a number of different religious books and as long as they respect my right to follow my beliefs without harassment then I am happy.

Anon1234567890 · 25/03/2017 19:23

Was he a real person or was he made up like Jesus?

Backingvocals · 25/03/2017 19:36

Love that you put this in AIBU because I found out today that there's a town in Saudi Arabia, near Medina, called YANBU! Fun MN fact of the day Grin

coconuttella · 25/03/2017 19:38

Was he a real person or was he made up like Jesus?

?? Irrespective of whether you are an atheist of not, to dismiss Jesus as simply 'made up' is the polar-opposite ignorance of believing the world is flat because the Bible says so. Just because you don't hold a Christian faith (and you believe aspects of the faith are a fairy tale) doesn't mean it follows that the very existence of a man called Jesus is a fairytale...

GlacindaTheTroll · 25/03/2017 19:40

Anon RTFT

Littlechip · 25/03/2017 19:42

YANBU to not know, there's several hundred thousand bits of information I'd rather fill my head with before learning about religions.

1horatio · 25/03/2017 19:43

I don't think it matters whether Jesus, Mohammed or Moses (or Abraham etc...) actually lived or were made up.

MidnightVelvetthe7th · 25/03/2017 19:52

I have no idea where he was born, or where Guru Nanak was born or where the heads of other religions that are on my religion Top Trumps cards are born e.g. Hindu, Zoroastrian, Baha'i, Jain.

I do not need to know. The only reason I know where Jesus was born is from a C of E primary school. I do not feel foolish for not knowing, to be honest if I had an interest in any religion then I would be looking firstly at its attitude to women not the birthplace of its founder.

Nakedavenger74 · 25/03/2017 19:54

Elisheva A little bit of knowledge, understanding and respect would go a long way

No religions do not get my respect as I disagree with most of their tenets, their approach to women and homosexuals.

I don't care if anyone wants to be religious but I refuse to understand why I have to accept it and be knowledgable about it.

Respect is gained not automatically given. I fail to see how any religion deserves my respect.

AuntieStella · 25/03/2017 19:58

I think that mutual respect is pretty basic, between all sectors in society.

And that you stand a fighting chance of knowing the important features of religions by paying attention in RE classes (assuming brought up in UK and not opted out). Yes, I've forgotten a lot of stuff I learned at school, including some facts about some religions. But I know I used to know IYSWIM.

yellow6 · 25/03/2017 20:01

nowhere in my re class was i told mohammed was married to a young child

WaitrosePigeon · 25/03/2017 20:01

Should I know too?

user1471545174 · 25/03/2017 20:02

I don't think Richard II and Isabella consummated; he was famously gay.

yellow6 · 25/03/2017 20:07

user i think your right but its a false equivalency anyway because noones today isfollowing the teachings of richard II but lots are following mohammed

user1471545174 · 25/03/2017 20:11

Quite, I didn't mention it yellow6 but it was mentioned upthread so I thought I'd defend Richard's reputation.

hippyhippyshake · 25/03/2017 20:16

Interesting that people 'should' know because they did it at school. My grammar school education in the late 60s only covered Christianity. So for us oldies, information about other religions comes from the news and deeper facts will only be known through a conscious effort to learn about them. My total knowledge of other religions has been through working in the classrooms in ks1. Therefore bite-size pieces of Buddhism, Sikhism, Judaism etc vanilla-ed up and with no contentious information whatsoever.

MidnightVelvetthe7th · 25/03/2017 20:21

hippy fairly ironic no, that religion has to be vanill'ed & whitewashed for ks 1's when the prophet's wife would have been in year 1 herself when she got engaged?!

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