Learner driver driving unsupervised

[mumto2two]

Not so much an AIBU, as the title speaks for itself. But more the attitude of this particular girl in DD's class. Since early last year she has made my daughter's life miserable at school, tried to jeopardise her GCSE's by bullying her with nasty comments as they were waiting outside exam halls etc. Just a nasty very mixed up girl. Had to complain to school theee times, the last of which involved her physically pushing my daughter into a window. But it's an independant school..and she's still there...
Anyway, this girl has just been bought a brand new car, 18k worth, and is very much spoilt and likes to brag at school about it. She refuses to have the insurance tracker, so her insurance is 4k, but she doesn't care, and laughs about it openly in school. More fool her mother we say. Anyway, what I think is worse, is the fact that this girl has been blatantly driving around in her new car, unsupervised and without plates. We see her all the time, and other mums have commented too.
Having picked DD up late last night from a school event, this girl was again driving on her own. She has failed her theory twice and thinks it's funny. AIBU to think aside from her obvious don't care attitude, she is a danger on our roads..and what would you do?

[littlemissM92]

Next time you see her you need to take a picture/video and pass it on

[mumto2two]

I don't think she drives the car unaccompanied to or from school, from what DD and her friends say, the mum picks her up in the car that was bought for her, and the girl drives it home. Which could be why the L plates aren't displayed...Just can't be bothered to put them up and down perhaps? Not a valid excuse of course, but we see them most days driving back from school and never an L plate in sight.
Last night was the first time I myself saw her actually driving unaccompanied, we have often spotted the car out & about, always without the plates, but as the rear windows are heavily tinted, can't always see who is in the car.
Anyway, those uncertainties aside, at least it is on the radar now, if she does happen to do it again!
Re the insurance/black box question, from what I can gather, a lot of DD's friends, provisional licence holders included, have a box that monitors their driving and reviews the policy cost every few months. If they drive well, the premiums go down, but if they don't, they go up. It also reports any dangerous driving, and the policy can be revoked beyond a certain threshold. This girl was bragging in school about how there was no way she was having it put in, and her mother could swing through trees before she'd consider having it. She'd rather her mum pay the premium rather than 'have to worry about driving at 20mph like a retarded snail'...interesting mentality as you can see!
Anyway, thanks again for all your comments x

[Iamastonished]

"I don't think she drives the car unaccompanied to or from school, from what DD and her friends say, the mum picks her up in the car that was bought for her, and the girl drives it home. Which could be why the L plates aren't displayed"

Don't you have to display them if you are a learner driver?

[mumto2two]

Yes definitely! I think that fact alone is a Fixed penalty with points, and a provisional license can only take 6 before being revoked.
Whereas driving unaccompanied could mean a potentially more serious outcome, including court summons etc..so yes, very much wrong on both counts.

[SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius]

I assume that the OP meant the girl's mum doesn't have the L-plates on when she is going to school to pick her up, because she doesn't need them. But there is no excuse not to put them on when she picks her up - they are magnetic and take seconds to put on.

I am glad you have reported her, OP, and I hope they throw the book at her and her mum - because her mum is every bit as responsible as her, for letting her drive without the L-plates. In fact, bo parents should be held legally responsible for letting her drive unsupervised. They cannot be unaware that she is doing this.

[SallyCanWait]

I'm not sure how the other information in your op is even relevant. It has nothing to do with the fact she is driving illegally. Report her now fgs.

[kingscrossnoodle]

I not see how the families decision not to have an insurance box fitted is relevant or anyone else's business. I have never and don't intend for my teens to have a box fitted. The insurance they get may cost more than a box fitted cheaper policy but there is more to insurance then simply going for the cheapest. I shop around and go for the one that suits my needs the best, the one that offers the best in terms of what happens after an accident etc.

The other part, I would say the girl is a gobby cow, has passed her yeast and is taking advanced lessons. However I echo everyone else, the police should have been informed already, just in case

[mumto2two]

I do agree with you kingscross, whatever insurance they choose is their business, it has been more this girls attitude that has drawn attention to it, a derisory scoff towards anything or anyone that might restrain what she can and can't do.
As for her mum and the L plates, I also originally assumed she must be popping them on once her daughter was behind the wheel, but can definitely say this is not the case, I have seen her driving on numerous occasions without the plates, and DD says some of her friends parents have been noticing it too. Bizarre really, why any responsible parent would not insist, I very much doubt she would not be aware of this.

[Olivialoves]

So are you going to report her or not OP?

[Rednailsandnaeknickers]

Olivia the OP stated in her post at 11:52 that she has reported on the non emergency line.

[NoFanJoe]

I think report to the police too. Also, I think it's a good idea to avoid letting your DD know you've done it - she might feel conflicted about whether to say anything either now or at some later point.