Learner driver driving unsupervised

[mumto2two]

Not so much an AIBU, as the title speaks for itself. But more the attitude of this particular girl in DD's class. Since early last year she has made my daughter's life miserable at school, tried to jeopardise her GCSE's by bullying her with nasty comments as they were waiting outside exam halls etc. Just a nasty very mixed up girl. Had to complain to school theee times, the last of which involved her physically pushing my daughter into a window. But it's an independant school..and she's still there...
Anyway, this girl has just been bought a brand new car, 18k worth, and is very much spoilt and likes to brag at school about it. She refuses to have the insurance tracker, so her insurance is 4k, but she doesn't care, and laughs about it openly in school. More fool her mother we say. Anyway, what I think is worse, is the fact that this girl has been blatantly driving around in her new car, unsupervised and without plates. We see her all the time, and other mums have commented too.
Having picked DD up late last night from a school event, this girl was again driving on her own. She has failed her theory twice and thinks it's funny. AIBU to think aside from her obvious don't care attitude, she is a danger on our roads..and what would you do?

[user1490123259]

Could you speak to the diving instructor first to double check that she hasn't passed?

absolutly do not go about investigating this girl behind her back. Just speak to the police, they will be able to check to see if she has passed, not you

[Iamastonished]

So, why are you procrastinating about calling the police? Do it.

[Cakescakescakes]

Do not hesitate. If she kills someone or herself while you are deliberating about reporting this then that would be unthinkable. I have a family member who was killed by an uninsured and unlicensed driver.

[IntoTheDeep]

I wouldn't bother double checking whether she's passed with the driving instructor.

The police will be able to quickly access the DVLA records to see whether she's passed. If she's passed and is pretending she hasn't for some stupid reason, then reporting her isn't going to get her into any trouble, is it?

[user1473069303]

She doesn't know how lucky she is having her own car and someone to practise with.

Definitely report.

Were she to cause any injury or damage, good luck in getting her to pay up without valid insurance.

[FurryLittleTwerp]

Ring 111 & let them know. If she has passed but is weirdly bragging about having not then it will be apparent. If she is really driving without a license then you have a moral duty to dob her in - really.

My brother's wife & her two sisters regularly drove up & down their village without a license in their teens & twenties - parents couldn't care, thought it was fine as "only local" - just ridiculous. Also have form for not bothering to insist on seatbelts & cycle helmets for their own children either.

SIL continues to be irresponsible into her late 30s & has recently got her license back after a lengthy drink-driving ban.

Poor DB despairs.

[nogrip]

FFS OP, come back and tell us you are reporting to the police

[mumto2two]

I wasn't procrastinating, and yes I do agree with everyone. It is at best illegal, and potentially life changing.
My own family has a very tragic history with car accidents, so I know how awful the consequences can be. To begin with the issue was all just hearsay, but having seen the girl myself last night, I went to sleep thinking about it, and posted on here first thing to see what others thought. It might not seem like something that needed clarification on, I agree, but I have never 'grassed' on somebody like this before. It made me feel ill at ease, and part of me wondered if there was a better way to address it.
Thank you everyone x

[DisgraceToTheYChromosome]

GEt her off the streets before I or one of my colleagues reduces her to a red smear.
Ring 999, give them the registration and tell them she's driving unsupervised.

[Iamastonished]

Just ring 101 and tell them. Job done.

I reported a neighbour of mine for drink driving and didn't feel guilty for doing so. He used to roar up our cul de sac, where there were children playing - DD and his children. I couldn't have lived with myself if he had hit any of them. He has hit his fence a few times though.

[LagunaBubbles]

This isn't "grassing"! Why are you still posting stuff that makes it sound like you still don't know what to do!

[FurryLittleTwerp]

Yes 101, not 111 as I put - hopefully the NHS won't need to be involved at all...

[OnionKnight]

Report her FFS, stop dithering!

[Trainspotting1984]

If I were you I'd just be happy someone I hated is going to be in trouble. I don't know if you're being pretend modest or aren't as vengeful as me 😂

[Trainspotting1984]

And don't speak to the driving instructor, DVLa or anyone else. Why would they tell you anything?

[AwaywiththePixies27]

A friends DH got knocked down and spent the next fortnight in intensive care. He's scarred for life now because of what happened (pedestrian) and that was with an insured driver who was speeding.

I think the OP knows it's a no brainer to contact the police but I think yhr reason they're asking is they could be concerned about repercussions to her DD if the girl thinks / assumes its OP that contacted them (the bit about her pushing her DD through the window almost she's obviously not the reasonable type).

People drive around uninsured all the time around this area. At my DCs last school there was a mum and dad who's drop their DCs off every morning in his car without fail. He'd been banned from driving. No one dared say anything in case he cottoned on it was them.
I appreciate people will say the police have better things to do with their time, but half an hour on the end of some of the roads near me in the morning they'd have a field day with the amount of uninsured drivers who shouldn't be behind a wheel.

You only need to look at what happened on Westminster Bridge this week to see how much harm can be done with the wrong person behind the wheel of a car.

[lalalalyra]

The backstory is actually relevant - it shows the girls manner and attitude.

I hope you do report her. Don't go digging about asking questions as it could make it obvious who then reports and teenage girls can be horrible and your DD would get the flack.

There are enough shit and idiot drivers on the road already without an over confident unlicensed one driving around with/near other kids.

[goingtotown]

You posted at 7.54 are you seriously concerned, I don't think so.

[doublesnap]

The backstory is actually relevant - it shows the girls manner and attitude.

It's not at all relevant. The illegal driver could be the most considerate, lovely person you could hope to meet but has made a stupid decision. It doesn't change the fact that you have to report them.

[MycatsaPirate]

Her insurance won't be valid. Phone the police and report her.

If she has an accident then she won't be covered and the other party will end up footing the costs. Never mind that she could actually kill someone.

[doublesnap]

I'm starting to wonder if the OP lives somewhere without many cars in a very rural location.

[littlemissM92]

Her mother or school won't give a shit! What are you waiting for ?! Get on with it before she kills someone

[WicksEnd]

Surely you'd only have black box insurance if you've passed your test? So I'm not sure why that's come into it. Why would you need it as a learner?
But god yes, inform the police, she's most definitely not insured whatever policy they think they have as she's not passed her test anyway.

[mumto2two]

Fairly rural yes..but we do have plenty of traffic!
Anyway..thanks for everyone's input. It was definitely an all round unanimous no brainier, and we have reported it on the non emergency reporting line. With regards to her driving unaccompanied, they would need to see that for themselves, but can of course keep an eye out for the car. Beyond that, until she is actually caught in the act, that's as much as can be done at present.
Having spent 5 years reporting our local yob for speeding and anti social behaviour, it was also known that he had an illegal bike and was disqualified and uninsured, but it still took 5 years to get him off our roads. And he'll be back on them soon again no doubt.
It's a digression, but a reminder that there are many unfit road users out there, and bringing them to account can be more difficult than we think!

[70isaLimitNotaTarget]

If she was driving back from school, they might have CCTV?

And she might have passed but be having Motorway Driving Lessons (something I wish was compulsary too)