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VladmirsPoutine · 24/03/2017 15:16

This happened a while back and I wonder who was in the right.

Two young women both went to Rome to learn Italian for a year.
At the time of arrival they didn't know each other but met and became friends in Italian school.

At the time both lived in different accommodation but both in a UK-style halls situation and both wanted to move into their own separate studio/ apartment type of places.

Let's call girl 1 Kara, and let's call girl 2 Tabitha.

Tabitha finds a notice board which lists a studio apartment and calls the owner asking for a viewing. Owner responds positively and gives Tabitha a time and date to attend the viewing.

On the day of the viewing Tabitha is running late and when she arrives at the meeting place (not the actual apartment but a train station nearby) she finds the owner has left and owner is not responding to her calls, nor subsequent calls.

A few days later, Tabitha tells Kara what happened. Kara sympathises and asks for the notice with contact details. Tabitha hands it over as she thought it was a lost cause anyway. A week later Tabitha learns that Kara met with the owner and is planning on moving in to the apartment.

Tabitha felt very bitter but equally Kara felt that it was now fair game.

Should Kara have alerted Tabitha back when the owner got in touch with her - i.e. should Kara had accepted that Tabitha should have first refusal?

Kara invited Tabitha for dinner at the new apartment but by all accounts the relationship was stretched at that point.

OP posts:
EllaHen · 24/03/2017 16:45

What did Tabitha think was going to happen when she handed over the landlord's details? What?

Motherof3beautfulgirls · 24/03/2017 16:55

To be fair, it's a little sneaky and Kara should have told Tabitha that she was interested from the first point when she asked for the details. If Tabitha would have got the hump and refused to give the details then she was being unreasonable. It's just basic to ask first surely? By not doing so it's defiantly sneaky.

VeryBitchyRestingFace · 24/03/2017 17:00

Should Kara have alerted Tabitha back when the owner got in touch with her - i.e. should Kara had accepted that Tabitha should have first refusal?

Tabitha gave her the details. She has no right to get arsey/PA about it.

Btw, if you're Tabitha, OP, get over it - it was 20 years ago! Grin

And if you're Kara, really not worth any brooding self doubt.

MyGastIsFlabbered · 24/03/2017 17:12

Why on earth did Tabitha think Kara wanted the details? To ring the landlord and beg for Tabitha to be given a second chance? Hmm

ImFuckingSpartacus · 24/03/2017 17:17

To be fair, it's a little sneaky and Kara should have told Tabitha that she was interested from the first point when she asked for the details

Of course its not sneaky. If Tabitha is too thick to work out why Kara wanted the details (and there is one option only available), then more fool her.

FumBluff1 · 24/03/2017 17:20

I think Kara was a bit sneaky, but Tabitha was a bit stupid to give the contact details out

VeryBitchyRestingFace · 24/03/2017 17:23

i.e. should Kara had accepted that Tabitha should have first Refusal?

That part doesn't even make sense. Tabitha doesn't get to have "first refusal" - the landlord, rightly or wrongly, didn't want a bar of her.

(I do hope you're Kara, OP!)

Guavaf1sh · 24/03/2017 17:31

Tabitha was late, had lost the respect of the landlord, then was stupid. But on the other hand she learnt a good lesson so it wasn't all bad

greeeen · 24/03/2017 17:32

I would say that is fine for a casual friend/acquaintance but would be disappointed if a close friend did it.

ImFuckingSpartacus · 24/03/2017 17:39

Did what? Kara did nothing to Tabitha.

Do people really think that if there are 2 women, both looking for flats, one should not go view one that the other woman failed to turn up for?

I can only assume you have never tried to get an affordable flat in Rome or anywhere else, or you wouldn't dream of thinking such a silly thing.

TowerRavenSeven · 24/03/2017 17:48

If I were Kara I couldn't do that to a friend. IMO sneaky and not loyal to Tabitha. A person I met in passing who I'd never meet again or wouldn't want to be friends with anyway, yes. But never a friend.

AshesandDust · 24/03/2017 17:53

So if Kara had no problem contacting the landlord
it shows Tabitha could have done the same. Looks
like Tabitha is jealous and would rather the place
had gone to anyone else but her friend.
If I was Kara I'd ditch the immature Tabitha tbh.

Ohyesiam · 24/03/2017 17:54

If I had been kara I would definitely have checked it out with Tabitha, otherwise she is treating her as if she doesn't exist.
Kara is not the type of friend anyone needs.

harderandharder2breathe · 24/03/2017 18:14

Tabitha should've been on time and not been stupid enough to give the details to Kara

VladmirsPoutine · 24/03/2017 18:40

AshesandDust harderandharder2breathe

That's just the thing - given Tabitha was not on time and given that they'd only been friends for a short while at that point should Tabitha have just refused to give her the details regardless and played the ignorant i.e. 'not sure where she'd dropped the details'.

OP posts:
dowhatnow · 24/03/2017 18:48

Why did she give her the details if she was going to be funny with her for getting it? She shouldn't have given her the details in the first place if she didn't want her to have it.

shaggedthruahedgebackwards · 24/03/2017 18:55

Since Tabitha had missed out on the apartment (the owner's failure to return her calls would make it fairly obvious that she wasn't going to be given second chance), the only reason not to give Kara the contact details would be out of spite.

If Tabitha didn't particularly like Kara then she could have made an excuse to not give Kara the details, but she had nothing to gain by doing that.

At least with Kara fixed up with accommodation then Tabitha didn't have to worry about competing with her friend/acquaintance for any other flats.

VeryButchyRestingFace · 24/03/2017 19:00

OP, you'd better not be the landlord! Grin

FeliciaJollygoodfellow · 24/03/2017 19:04

If I were Tabitha I'd feel a bit miffed that Kara got the flat but ultimately, it was my fault and no more mine than hers at that point.

I feel it would be extremely churlish of Tabitha to hold anything but a 'pretend' grudge and to consider withholding information would be mean.

hollyisalovelyname · 24/03/2017 19:14

Mean of Kara.
Karma will get her Grin

ScarlettFreestone · 24/03/2017 19:26

I'd honestly think that Tabitha hadn't tried very hard to get in touch with the landlord if Kara managed so easily.

I think that Tabitha was in no way entitled to "first refusal".

I'd hope that Tabitha had learned a vital life lesson about the consequences of wasting other people's time.

If Tabitha is truly pissed off about this I'd think she was very immature as well as rude.

What on earth did she think Kara was going to do with the contact details? All round she seems a bit clueless.

Hope's OP isn't Tabitha's Mum

ImFuckingSpartacus · 24/03/2017 20:29

Anyone complaining about Kara is not someone I would want to be friends with. Clueless, to a woman.

Chartreuse45 · 24/03/2017 21:04

Tabitha is not living in the real world! She gave the details to Kara, Kara did not force her hand by say fishing them out of the wastepaper basket! There was one and only thing Kara was intending to do. The idea of first refusal or Kara acting as Tabitha's spokeswoman to arrange a second chance (since she managed to contact him when Tabitha had been unsuccessful) was looking at the situation through rose coloured glasses. Assuming Tabitha rang several times the landlord had very likely made up his mind about her and was avoiding her on purpose. In this case Kara could either apply for the apartment or out of loyalty let it go. Sometimes life does not go the way you want but expecting Kara to stand back or to refuse the apartment would be very optimistic!

dowhatnow · 24/03/2017 21:06

Who are you op?

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