To be annoyed about the lack Mothering Sunday cards?

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They're all festooned with "Mother's Day"

It's not mother's day, it's Mothering Sunday!

Plus moving the big rock!

yes, i can see why they celebrate more at easter really -

mum said it was nice as it the church was bare on Good friday, then all colourful and full of flowers on the sunday for church, with the easter bonnets for the children and everyone happy. This was years ago though.

squoosh "Sorry to burst your bubbles but it is a religious traditional holiday. Just like Christmas and Easter.

And sorry to burst your bubble but Christmas and Easter were both originally pagan festivals that were later commandeered by Christianity. They even pilfered the name Easter from the pagan goddess Eostre."

That's why I said religious, not Christian

TheWhiteRose Mothering Sunday was dying out until it was revived and rebranded, influenced by American soldiers stationed in the UK during WW1, as a celebration of mothers and mothering in imitation of American mother's day (which has existed since 1908).

Something existing in the 70s doesn't stop it being modern and commercial rather than an ancient tradition.

Christmas cards are also a modern (Victorian) invention, originally pushed by the post office for commercial reasons.

What I think Christmas is, as you so disingenuously ask, is of course a pagan festival rebranded by Christians for marketing purposes, very successfully too.

for you PurpleTraitor, I sympathise as I'm in the same situation and it's shit.

must be hard if you dont get on with your mum as all the cards are the same - how much your loved etc etc, not everyone has this with their parents.
the whole thing is just hype imho, but for some folk they love doing it all and making a fuss.

So it was never a case of Mothering Sunday not being about cards, they are not a recent invention which came over with Mother's Day

Nope, wrong again. Mothering Sunday was revived around the time of WW1, made even more popular after WW2, and merged with the idea of "mothers day", which was an American secular card giving day, which is celebrated in May in America. And the name gradually changed.

I really dislike the phrase "Mothering Sunday".

Easter cards have been around for ages. And cards usually say Mother's Day (mum, mummy and so on). What's wrong with that

I send easter cards, but I make them myself, and my family are Catholic.

DP's grandmother really enjoys receiving them

My dm prefers a Mothering card rather than Mother's Day but I couldn't see one in Card Factory so I bought Mothers Day one. Would have preferred the former.

In my church the dcs make things for the ladies in church on the day. I received a gift which was lovely as my dc are grown up.

MIL insists her card says Mothering Sunday. I was trying to get DH to buy her one we saw that said Happy Mummy's Day but he was having none of it.

I made an Easter card at school.
Really don't give a flying fuck about what it's called. We aren't religious in my family.

What I think Christmas is, as you so disingenuously ask, is of course a pagan festival rebranded by Christians for marketing purposes, very successfully too.

Um, do you really think that early Christians rebranded a festival for marketing purposes? Okay And I don't believe I was disingenuous, thank you

Found quite a few Mothering Sunday ones in Sainsbury's

Whilst conseding that wiki is not a perfect source, this article is interesting (and suggests mothering Sunday wasn't revived in the UK and merged with the American idea of honouring female parents until the early 1920s, as well as pointing out that merchants and commercial interests in the UK enthusiastically promoted the new commercial opportunity in the 1950s

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothering_Sunday

TheWhiteRose

*What I think Christmas is, as you so disingenuously ask, is of course a pagan festival rebranded by Christians for marketing purposes, very successfully too.

Um, do you really think that early Christians rebranded a festival for marketing purposes?*

Yes of course they did.

There is no mention of when Jesus was born in any of the four gospels, aside from the bit in Luke about watching the flocks by night (which is a grazing season thing). No mention was made of the date of Jesus's birth for the first 200 years the early church existed, and when early theologians started trying to work it out they mostly liked a date in March or April.

There were probably lots of reasons for choosing a date as close as possible to the winter equinox (one was apparently related to a split in the early church between those who believed Jesus was God's literal son and those who believed he essentially chose a human man he really liked to do his work in the world and be his "son", and the fact the council of Nicaea decided to support the first interpretation as it was easier to market as market research showed that medeaval people absolutely loved the Virgin Mary story, so they wanted to build her part up) as well as the fact it made it easier to push (market, evangelise, whichever word you like) Christianity if pagan target audiences could essentially continue with their existing favourite festivals with a bit of a new story slapped on top.

And again, www.moonpig.com is your friend.

Um, do you really think that early Christians rebranded a festival for marketing purposes?

Yes of course they did.

Well you seem very sure but most of what you quoted is just theory, and there are other, contrary theories about the dating of Christmas. The date of December 25th was fixed around 250-300 AD but there is no evidence of the assimilation of pagan traditions into the Christian church at that time- that came a few centuries later. There is evidence to suggest that early Christians did not want their celebrations associated with pagan rites and actively distanced the birth of Christ from them. Christianity did not develop in isolation so bits of other cultures and beliefs were picked up as it spread across Europe, but the dates for Christmas were already set by then.
But of course if you want to believe your theory as if it were Gospel (excuse my pun)…

Back to Mothering Sunday:
Nope, wrong again. Mothering Sunday was revived around the time of WW1, made even more popular after WW2, and merged with the idea of "mothers day", which was an American secular card giving day, which is celebrated in May in America. And the name gradually changed.

But as you yourself say Spartacus, Mothering Sunday was revived after WW1, not Mother’s day. And Mothering Sunday became popular again after WW11, not Mother’s Day. It has now become interchangeable with Mother’s Day, to the point that the OP is having trouble finding cards with Mothering Sunday on them, so she is surely NBU.