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There is no evidence that this so called thread was "tapped". Trump continued

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egosumquisum1 · 23/03/2017 19:33

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BiglyBadgers · 24/03/2017 08:01

Rogue Potus Staff twitter may be a touch dodgy

I don't want to be seen as defending the roguepotus account as i really don't know if they are dodgy or not. But i do know that they didn't build their own website, they asked for a volunteer to do it on their behalf some time ago, so it could be that the person who built it is dodgy, or it could be their site security isn't that great and someone has hacked and changed the code. I also haven't actually gone in to check the code myself and see if this sorry is even legit.

As i said before, i have followed them since they started and i cant think of any serious case of misinformation. They haven't always got things right, but nothing that i would say would have caused any damage to anyone who believed it, just stuff that would suggest they are not in the centre of the loop and makes me think they may not be in the WH (but who is, even trumps spokesman seems out the loops a lot of the time). I may have missed it, but can anyone point to times they have released actual dwmaging disinformation.

Most of their stuff seems to be rather ranty at times and focused around campaigning rather than spreading disinformation.

As i said, i don't know either way, but i haven't seen anything that has seemed anything other than anti-trump. If it is an alt-right troll it is surely doing the trump side more harm than it is good. If it does come out that way i would send the trolls a big thank you card for playing such a key role in helping spread the anti-trump message and galvanise protest, particularly in the early days. Grin

I don't want to go on about this, but i also think it is important that we don't just leap on any dodgy news we see against people and start asserting that people are not genuine. To be honest this story stinks of alt-right troll to me as much (or rather more) than the roguepotus account.

PausingFlatly · 24/03/2017 08:03

I doubt he even cares about the content of the bill. He's finding healthcare complicated (who knew), so my guess is this is his attempt to walk away and blame someone else.

Ryan for writing the bill. Congress for not voting for it. The office dog.

Just like he dumped The Wall on Kushner(?) when it wasn't fun anymore.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/03/2017 08:03

Louise mensch was tweeting about how the rogue POTUS account had a line of code (?) in it that pointed to the address of nazi headquarters but I can't find the link and didn't read up beyond that.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/03/2017 08:04

Re-reading that, I've basically offered jo concrete information so just ignore!

PausingFlatly · 24/03/2017 08:10

Can someone who explains US political mechanisms explain to me, why does it matter ( does it matter) if the White House loses interest in a bill?

Does legislation have to be proposed by the WH? Or can members of Congress propose bills?

(I'm thinking of private members' bills in the UK, proposed by any MP.)

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 24/03/2017 08:19

The last 2 posts on the last thread are about the Rogue POTUS account & the alleged Nazi code.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 24/03/2017 08:20

There is a link to an article too. (rushing to get out house so no time to repost)

BiglyBadgers · 24/03/2017 08:29

Yes, i read the article, but firstly it is a bit tenuous and secondly as i pointed out there are multiple ways it could of got there, if it is there at all (i haven't personally looked). I was reading an article the other day about how the myth of Snowdon's missing 11 days got started. There was no actual evidence for it, just people extrapolating wildly from a misreading of a small comment. It ended up in a lot of major newspapers and a guy based a whole book discrediting Snowdon on this one myth. It has now been proved to be bollocks. I am now extra wary of jumping to conclusions about peoples motives based on one rather suspect story that has got spread about a bit.

Roussette · 24/03/2017 08:30

Leaving Obamacare in place would be failing to keep a key campaign promise, and that's LOSING

Absolutely claws. He can't bear to lose. Reading through Spicer's transcript from the press conf yesterday, it appears to me that DT wants to win the vote whatever the cost. Spicer was questioned closely about how it appeared that the Bill had been rushed through and Spicer's answer to everything was repeating that DT had made an election promise and it had to happen because he had promised it.

So it appears to me as if they are discarding so many parts of Obamacare to rush through something on price. Correct me if I'm wrong. No maternity care, no mental health care, no pre existing conditions (which was a big plus with Obamacare) and I think even veterans are affected. So say by 2026 more than 24million Americans will lose their healthcare under this new Bill.

I don't know enough about it, only the scant details I've read online but this is a real test for the Trump administration because if he loses on this, he can lose on anything can't he...

MrsT2007 · 24/03/2017 08:44

Munich onlympont was to not to take the rogue Potus account as gospel. It does seem a bit ranty an incoherent but that's necessarily an indicator it's dodgy.

Today is going to be interesting. Will other events overtake the healthcare bill? Will Trump be defeated.....& if so, will he have some sort of imploding breakdown?

GingerIvy · 24/03/2017 08:45

But if he loses, he needs to be able to blame it on someone else.

GingerIvy · 24/03/2017 08:47

Peter Daou‏Verified account @peterdaou 11h11 hours ago
Alexander Hamilton predicted our current political crisis with uncanny accuracy. It's eerie to read his words.

(via @jbf1755) #ICYMI pic.twitter.com/3wdPII2LBh

GingerIvy · 24/03/2017 08:48

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Many hours ago, a terrorist stabbed &killed an American in a major international city. No not London but NY. A white supremacist. Forgotten.

GingerIvy · 24/03/2017 08:50

Reuters Top News‏Verified account @Reuters 11m11 minutes ago
Poll finds unprecedented uncertainty among French voters before presidential election reut.rs/2n0BEXk

PausingFlatly · 24/03/2017 08:53

Very short video about responding to attack on Westminster, from Brendan Cox and Dave Haines (whose brother was killed by ISIS): www.facebook.com/hope.n.hate/videos/vb.91897231853/10154197483371854/?type=3&theater&utm_medium=email&utm_source=searchlondon&utm_content=2&utm_campaign=20170324_video&source=20170324_video

PausingFlatly · 24/03/2017 08:57

Yesterday's attack in NY:
White army veteran ‘sword killer’ wanted to attack black people, police say
www.thecourier.co.uk/news/uk-world/392482/white-army-veteran-sword-killer-wanted-to-attack-black-people-police-say/

BiglyBadgers · 24/03/2017 09:20

Munich onlympont was to not to take the rogue Potus account as gospel

I wouldn't recommend anyone takes anything they read on the internet from anyone as gospel. Grin

BiglyBadgers · 24/03/2017 09:26

Leaving Obamacare in place would be failing to keep a key campaign promise, and that's LOSING

I agree with you. I think he must be fuming right now. I read this "take it or lose it" threat as a desperate attempt to call their bluff from Trump. I think if they do refuse to come over to his side and pass the bill he will then try and sell it as the establishment stopping him from doing what his voters wanted.

I wonder how Ryan is feeling right now, considering Breitbart is putting the blame on him for this whole sorry mess? Grin

MrsT2007 · 24/03/2017 09:37

I really hope Ryan is going to come away from this opposing Trump

Let's face it, if DT and MP both go, he would be president

He must be aware of this, & it must cross his mind

BiglyBadgers · 24/03/2017 09:59

Well....Fancy...From the daily beast. Not sure I have seen it anywhere else yet, but might have just missed it.

The Slip-Up That Caught the Jewish Center Bomb Caller
An Israeli teen accused of making more than 100 bomb threats in the U.S. outran the FBI for months, using Bitcoin and more to stay hidden. Then he made a mistake.
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/23/the-slip-up-that-caught-the-jewish-center-bomb-caller.html?via=twitter_page

cozietoesie · 24/03/2017 10:08

Gosh.

cozietoesie · 24/03/2017 10:14

Joint Israeli/US citizenship, I think?

PausingFlatly · 24/03/2017 10:16

I'm struggling to keep up with the crazy.

So... What was that about?

cozietoesie · 24/03/2017 10:19

I know the feeling, Pausing. What was 'what' about, though?

PausingFlatly · 24/03/2017 10:23

Oh, the bomb threats from the chap in Israel.

But yeah, could have been referring to anything right now...

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