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Children being funny with their uncle ...

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Chickendipper12 · 23/03/2017 16:28

Okay so dh and bil have never been very close. Theres is a 12 year age gap which never helped.
Dh was close to dn but sil was always funny about dh because of ridiculous reasons (dh had long hair, listens to rock music) and she suddenly stopped dh seeing dn.

Anyway fast forward a few years bil and sil are no longer a item. Bil had a massive melt down and me and dh are trying to be supportive. Dh and bil are now very close!

The problem is for no reason both our kids are scared of him? We started going to see bil daily because he needed help with bits and bob and both dd (2 years) and ds (nearly 7 months) will not entertain him at all unless saying goodbye?
They have never been on their own with him, he has never done anything to hurt or frighten them but they just wont entertain him?

I suggested maybe a play date with our two kids and bil two kids.
Dh thinks its a bad idea and that we shouldnt keep trying to push the kids to have a relationship with bil even though dh get upset that the kids are like that and bil has done literally nothing wrong.

I on the other hand think the only way the kids will over come this is if they see their uncle.

Any suggestions? Should I just not take the kids to see their uncle?

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IHeartDodo · 23/03/2017 19:21

Since you mentioned a booming laugh - might he just be too loud?
I remember finding a couple of my father's friends quite scary when I was very small because they just had loud voices.

IHeartDodo · 23/03/2017 19:21

cross post sorry!

Dahlietta · 23/03/2017 19:28

I would keep doing what you are doing, persevering, but not forcing the issue. I agree that little kids can be weird about things like this! Mine went through a phase at a similar age when he wouldn't talk to anybody at all until he had been in their company for at least an hour (at least he was consistent, I suppose!). Outdoors does sound like a good idea, particularly if there is a chance that his loudness is the issue. Is there a playground nearby you could all walk to? They your dd might start to see going to see her uncle as a treat?

Chickendipper12 · 23/03/2017 19:31

Outdoors does seem to be the best idea. =)

Thank you for the reassurance and advice.xxx

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Sara107 · 23/03/2017 19:31

As a small child I was terrified of all men. My mum explained it as being the aftermath of a car accident, where a Nigerian doctor had checked me over at the scene (in those days the baby was just in a carrycot slung into the back seat). I think that was a bit fanciful ( and possibly racist) it's far more likely that men just seem enormous to a small child, and take a bit of getting used to. I wouldn't try and force the relationship, in time they will get used to their uncle and make friends with him.

sleepraptor · 23/03/2017 19:32

My DS was terrified of my brother because he had a beard. He also had a jigsaw where one piece had a person with a beard and he used to hide that piece!

Another child I know was scared of someone because they were bald. They admitted that had been the reason when they were around 3 or 4!

Licketysplits · 23/03/2017 19:33

I remember going to a party once with my ex, and a toddler there was absolutely terrified of him for absolutely no reason, as soon as he clapped eyes on him he started crying and hiding behind his mum, went on all day. Ex is Mediterranean background, so quite dark skinned but with very light piercing eyes, and we figured it must have just been that he found him scary for some reason. Ex was quite upset, loves kids and left feeling like he'd done something wrong. As a PP said little kids are weird!

MsAwesomeDragon · 23/03/2017 19:43

Dd2 was terrible with my sister. She hated her, we never got to the bottom of it, i think it might be because she looks and sounds similar to me (which may just be a bit weird for small children). We just laughed about it and never left them alone, but sis would always make sure she had something nice for DD when we saw her. One day, aged about 3, dd suddenly said "i like auntie x now" and that was it, not a problem any more. Kids are weird.

PyongyangKipperbang · 23/03/2017 19:49

THe looking similar thing was a huge issue when mine were young.

DSis is an adoring auntie but from the ages of about 6 months to about 3, all of the kids got really upset around her. Looks like mummy, sounds like mummy, but isnt mummy! We are not twins but it is very common that people think that we are as we are almost identical, so its understandable that it freaked the kids out.

They all adore her now, youngest DC is 5 and would cheerfully live Aunty if she could!

redlittlesquirrel · 23/03/2017 19:52

I remember being scared of my uncle when I was little because he had a beard and was tall. It's odd what small children can be scared of. I got over it eventually!

I used to be absolutely terrified of my dentist, who had a beard. Every time he came near me I would scream until eventually the dental nurse would have to check my teeth. One day we went and he'd shaved his beard off - I was absolutely fine with him from then on!

Children can be scared of the weirdest things.

weddingopinionsplease · 23/03/2017 19:52

Apparently when I was very small (same age as your DD I think) I was petrified of bald men. This included my grandad. I got over it and now have no problem with bald men (or my fantastic grandad!) Kids can be scared of random things. Your DC are still babies.

Mummyoflittledragon · 23/03/2017 20:01

Dd was frightened of all men when she was 2/3/4. She was fine as long as they were daddies. So I introduced the builders working on our house as daddies and she was fine. She was also terrified when she moved from the baby dance class to a different dance teacher in the school at 4/5. She stopped going for about 18 months and all was fine when she returned at 6.5.

I'd just let your bil be in the distance and background until your children are ready to interact with him. This is just a phase. One of many phases and nothing personal.

user1471433377 · 23/03/2017 20:19

My dsis is absolutely terrified of my sister, we have no idea why, she looks and sounds very similar to me, so maybe it's that; but we do use it to our advantage - if he's out playing nd there is an area that's dangerous etc we get her to stand in front of it - works like a charm

Chickendipper12 · 23/03/2017 21:02

Some of your stories have really tickled me XD.

Kids are funny little things. Im glad its just one of them things kids do. Because dd has never done anything like this before I was a bit like ... well what do I do now haha xxx

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BarbarianMum · 23/03/2017 21:07

Mine were both scared of NiL who is very tall with a big bushy beard - even though their dad is also very tall with a (non bushy) beard.

Kids are odd. waits for someone to come along and suggest it's gut instinct

Kitsandkids · 23/03/2017 21:14

My niece used to be scared of my husband (her mum's brother). I think it was because he is so tall. If her mum ever put her in his arms she would just kind of freeze in fear then start crying withrelief as soon as he gave her back! He didn't force the issue and she just sort of outgrew it at about 2.5. Now, at nearly 5, she loves him!

MarilynWhirlwindRocks · 24/03/2017 03:59

Small kids do indeed sometimes develop (what seems to us adults) odd aversions!

Reframing the trigger in a different, positive way is best, but not possible always to pinpoint exactly what that cause is. Especially with pre-verbal children. As you've found, OP.

It might be more the BIL's home environment (scene of [understandable, post-breakdown] unhappiness/ tension) your DD's struggling with?
Must be very stressful for you and your DH seeing him in a bad way: perhaps she's particularly astute at picking up that happens before/ after visits there, and associates him with that?
PP's suggestion to neutral, outdoors walk and distractions a very good one. Might break the cycle.

An anecdote to give you hope:

My cousin always fled screaming in terror from our (exceptionally gentle and kindly, but very tall) elderly relative. He was 6ft 5, though rather hunched over by then...through no fault of his own, I suppose he must've appeared to loom down towards tiny people!

Every visit for 2 or 3 years was tricky, as this poor chap felt (wrongly) his inexperience with kids was to blame. Various approaches were tried (no attention or fuss made of either, him remaining seated, no eye contact until she initiated it; tempting toys to share with her etc. etc.) to no avail.

This sweet man took it upon himself to read through my (by then) 5yr old cousin's vast collection of favourite books, in the hope they'd share common ground to talk about. He discovered Roald Dahl and decided he would 're-brand' himself as The BFG Grin Grin

Curiosity got the better of her, when this proper, RL grown-up nonchantly offered her a glass of Frobscottle, and reassured her "I is a nice and jumbly Giant"...

Took a while but they did become great friends.

Family legend has it that she even asked her parents to insist he came to stay, so she could take him into school for "Show and Tell" Smile

PurplePidjin · 24/03/2017 10:55

It probably is gut instinct, but with no reasonable trigger because, as previously stated, kids are weird. Pushing them together against her instincts isn't going to help, but not us cutting out a lovely family member simply because a small child has an irrational aversion - my ds2 is the 6th grandchild and the only one to have cried when he sees my mil so it truly is irrational. He also warms to her after half an hour or so and you wouldn't know he'd been upset previously. We just have to let him get there in his own time and I'm certainly not going to stop dh and ds1 from seeing family because of a toddler!

BillSykesDog · 24/03/2017 10:59

One of my 7 month olds gets very upset when my Mum arrives because she looks like me but she's not. Apparently my brother did this with her and her DM too.

Chickendipper12 · 24/03/2017 11:53

Kids are funny!
Last night bil came to our house! Dd was like "uncle X come do a picture" they did a lovely picture of a man and house.
She then wanted to share her tea with him.
Got him a ice cream.
Sat on his knee watching finding dory!

Today I nipped round to drop a guitar off and dd wouldnt even look at him!

Kids really are a riddle! Xxx

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PyongyangKipperbang · 24/03/2017 23:24

Marilyn what a lovely story! My eyes have gone all sweaty on reading that :)

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