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Reproduction is incredible

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LittleLionMansMummy · 14/03/2017 23:31

A year ago my dd had only just been conceived - a ball of cells containing information and not even yet an embryo. She's now the most beautifully angelic looking 4 month old, sleeping peacefully in her crib, and she rolled over for the first time today. She's a real little human, her character is already emerging. Times like this really do make me catch my breath. How life can change so much in such a short space of time. Smile

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peachgreen · 15/03/2017 13:33

Sorry OP and I definitely didn't mean to take the wind out of your sails - I just felt for Astoria who was obviously very upset by this post, and was just supporting her by gently agreeing that it would perhaps have been better posted elsewhere. But people saying that are very much in the minority amidst a mass of people enjoying the thread, so I'm sure it can't have hoovered your good mood entirely!

As I'm sure you'll remember, being confronted with the joys of motherhood everywhere you go when you're struggling to conceive is really difficult, and I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be a bit put out when it happens somewhere unexpected.

It isn't the right place for the thread, regardless of whether or not people are enjoying it - you knew that and posted it anyway so you can't really be upset by people pointing that out.

(And for the record other posts in AIBU that shouldn't be here annoy me just as much!)

peachgreen · 15/03/2017 13:34

Londonjam Sending you Flowers.

fatmummy87 · 15/03/2017 13:37

Lovely thread. My miracle is rolling around his play pen laughing at me folding sheets Halo

alltouchedout · 15/03/2017 13:39

It is, it's fabulous. Even though it happens all the time I still find every single birth sort of miraculous. I can get quite emotional thinking about it: one moment they didn't exist and then... boof! Sperm met egg and the process that would eventually result in a baby began; and nine (more like ten) months later, one moment they were inside me and then they were out in the world. Oh, those little faces. The feeling when you saw them for the first time that you'd known them forever. It's the ultimate privilege, I think, to become a parent.

NennyNooNoo · 15/03/2017 14:30

I keep chickens or at least I did until the fox got in and I often feel like this about eggs. Isn't it amazing that a fertilised bird's egg contains everything needed to make a chick / baby bird apart from oxygen which diffuses through the shell? Unlike mammals there is no placenta carrying nutrients to the embryo and taking away the waste; instead it's all there in a perfect package.

Londonjam · 15/03/2017 17:05

Ahhhh I meant to say it IS incredible !!!

I wish me and my husband could conceive!!

I sound so bitter. No, it is amazing.

Sigh 😔

ollieplimsoles · 15/03/2017 17:12

Great...

Barely to the end of the first page before someone ruins it by mentioning god.

Reproduction doesn't 'just happen by chance' its a complex system that has evolved with us over millions of years. Why do reptiles and birds lay their eggs and mammals give birth to live young? Did god just fancy a change?

Cant stand it when someone comes along and shits all over the complex beauty of human evolution with the 'c' word.

TheDowagerCuntess · 15/03/2017 17:49

Well, I'm agnostic as everyone should be and I'm sure people who believe in God 'can't stand it' when people 'shit all over' their belief in her/him.

FlowersFlowersFlowersFlowers

ollieplimsoles · 15/03/2017 17:55

Dowager

Fine by me. I was offended by creationism being dropped on this thread like its a fact . Works both ways

isupposeitsverynice · 15/03/2017 18:03

No one dropped it like a fact, they said for them it's a factor in their belief, others felt otherwise, we managed to plod on without arguing, no need for it really.

Nenny we keep chickens too and have hatched some in the incubator - watching them hatch is just wonderful. We also have quails and they are so tiny when they hatch it's just unbelievable.

skerrywind · 15/03/2017 18:08

I think it's a shame that religion was mentioned too.

Can't we all agree about the wonder of life without someone bringing up a devisive agenda?

Feeling the amazement of life is something we can all share.

I think it's a shame god was mentioned too.
This isn't a thread about religion.

Let's leave it out.

There are plenty of areas on this web site to discuss religion, and this thread isn't one of them.

ollieplimsoles · 15/03/2017 18:10

it can't have come about by chance. We are wonderfully designed.

thats a statement presented as a fact. Poster didn't say 'we might have been wonderfully designed, or I believe we were wonderfully designed. They said 'we are^ wonderfully designed.

Thats why I called it out, I dont care what other people believe, but present it as fact? then be prepared to be questioned.

EastMidsMummy · 15/03/2017 18:21

We are wonderfully designed.

tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/the-mistakes-that-argue-for-evolution/?_r=0

NennyNooNoo · 15/03/2017 21:41

Isupposeitsverynice yes, I remember the first time we hatched in an incubator it was so bizarre seeing an egg wobble all on its own.
I also Marvel at the fact that it's only 3 weeks from when the egg is laid to when it hatches and within a few hours it'll be wandering about. Must be strange being squashed inside an egg.Grin

icy121 · 15/03/2017 21:52

Meanwhile, over in the barren ghetto.... www.mumsnet.com/Talk/infertility spare a thought or two, please.

Sweetheartyparty76 · 15/03/2017 22:01

My little 4 month daughter just 2 days after fertilisation when she was only 4 cells. We had 2 embryos put back but sadly one didn't make it past 7 weeks. It's beautiful to see life just starting out

Reproduction is incredible
happy2bhomely · 15/03/2017 22:14

www.thepoetryexchange.co.uk/poem/on-children-by-khalil-gibran/

Life is beautiful.

ImFuckingSpartacus · 15/03/2017 22:53

The egg that made you definitely wasn't in your grandma

How do you work that one out? If a woman is born with all her eggs, then the day before she was born she had all her eggs, and was inside her mother. Ergo, the egg that made you was inside your grandmother.

ollieplimsoles · 15/03/2017 23:11

icy

Definitely a thought being spared for you all here Flowers I hope you all get your happy endings and the precious babies you want so badly.

This is the reason why god and creation should not be coming into this thread. Its about conceiving and having a child against the odds, against any odds. The belief that their is some man in the sky who decides who is 'worthy' enough to have a child so he 'blesses' them, its a very ugly idea.

TheDowagerCuntess · 15/03/2017 23:36

Nowhere has anything like that been said though, has it? A God deeming people 'worthy' enough to be 'blessed'.

The comment was that we can't have arrived here by accident. We have to have been designed.

I don't know if I believe that (nobody does!) - but I can see why some people might think it, or be drawn to the idea.

Reproduction is fairly miraculous, for a species which doesn't actually have any real understanding of where we originated from.

Feilin · 15/03/2017 23:38

A yr ago i was almost due this incredible ball of destruction/energy from cells assisted by origins .amazing.

FourForYouGlenCoco · 15/03/2017 23:39

*He squeezed my hand yesterday- and in a breath I was transported to the time that his tiny baby hand squeezed my finger, or that little toddler trusting my hand as we crossed the road.

That big 18 year old hand feels just the same hand as all those years ago, a long time, but the years have passed in heartbeat.*

Cried at this earlier and again just now. Mine are little still (4 and nearly 8 months) and I love them so much, and am painfully aware that the years pass all too quickly. They bring me so much joy every day. I say to my biggest all the time that I must be the luckiest person in the world. They are such amazing little people. I love that poem too homely.

Also plenty of thought to spare for icy and co. There was a time I thought I'd never have my kids (esp 2nd). I am always so aware that I am incredibly lucky - I clearly remember how I felt in my bad days, and I know there are people who'd do anything to be in my shoes now. It's hard to say the right thing without sounding smug. But anyone struggling - people you don't even know are wishing good things for you. And I know how it is to feel like everyone else has it easy, but you don't know someone else's journey; it might surprise you how many people understand, to a greater or lesser extent. Best of luck to anyone who needs it Flowers

Dallyw · 15/03/2017 23:42

its an amazing thing to look at your partner/husband and think "wow" we made this child

EastMidsMummy · 16/03/2017 07:07

Reproduction is fairly miraculous, for a species which doesn't actually have any real understanding of where we originated from.

We have a highly developed understanding of where we originated from and science continues to fill in the gaps of what we don't know.

TheDowagerCuntess · 16/03/2017 07:19

We have some theories based on what we know at this point in time. And that's about as good as it gets. We have no real idea.