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WIBU for DH to claim PIP?

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shouldwePIP · 13/03/2017 15:39

NC for this.

DH has severe mental illness, when he is well he can work full time but struggles to sustain this long term. When he is poorly he barely functions at all and certainly can't work. Currently he is working part time which is sustainable health wise but tight financially. Prior to becominģ unwell the first time he was self employed and so was not entitled to ESA when he became unwell due to my earnings being above threshold. Despite me having a good wage the sudden drop in income meant than we ran up debt. We had almost paid that off when he became unwell again last year and not realising that this time he was entitled to ESA missed out on claiming that and again ended up in debt.

DHs CPN suggested he may be eligable for PIP and when we looked into it he seems to score in for the higher rate based on the criteria. If he got this it would allow him to continue working part time comfortably, but we are aware thats not really what its meant for. Its intended to be used to help him with his independance, but the things he needs help with are things like prompting him to eat, wash, take tablets and montioring his condition, all of which are easy enough for me to do for him and cost nothing. I suppose though if it allowed him to stay in work and not get too ill to work again that in its way would be helping him to stay independant.

I think my views are coloured as I work with serverly physically and mentally disabled people and DH is so much more able than any of them. We also worry what people would think if they knew he was claiming. I earn a desent wage, he works part time nmw, we both drive, have 2 (ancient) cars and rent a nice house in an okish area. If it wasn't for the debts from when DH was ill we would be comfortably off, and I think we both feel that there are others who are more deserving/in need than us.

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TestingTestingWonTooFree · 16/03/2017 21:15

PS, does DH's employer know about his mh issues? If they've made any reasonable adjustments for him, then I'd tell pip that.

shouldwePIP · 17/03/2017 20:27

DHs in a relatively new job, I susspect he's disclosed some but not all on his health questionairre which I think goes directly to occupational health, but not necessarily disclosed anything to his manager directly. He certainly has always been reluctant to ask for adjustments, I think he's reluctant to accept that he needs adjustments and scared of stigma. I also think he's still strugling to accept his condition himself. To be honest this weeks been a really good one and we are doubting the PIP again, think we will keep a diary over time as we could use that as evidence. I think we are both hoping for the best, though I know deep down its unlikely to last forever.

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dangermouseisace · 17/03/2017 20:42

He definitely should try to claim pip.

I've known people claim DLA/PIP and work part time…and they were people who actually could work consistently.

If you DH has recurring/enduring severe MH problems, which it sounds like he has, working part time rather than full time might be the best way forward. I think you have to bear in mind PIP is for someone who needs help, regardless of whether they have to pay for it or not. If you weren't there no doubt your DH would need help from somewhere else. Claiming PIP gives him a bit of independence- he will be helping contribute financially, and if it should ever happen that you aren't able to help him for some reason then he should have funds to maintain his independence. E.g. if he is unable to drive due to illness, or if you need to go away for a week somewhere and he needs to pay someone to come and visit to do the things that you do.

Having a MH problem is stressful, caring for someone with a MH problem is stressful. It sounds like a bit of extra cash would help you. Get some help filling in the forms though- if DH has MH involvement they might be able to find someone to help with the forms or suggest someone who knows the right words to use to successfully claim for MH problems. Before any trolls butt in, this isn't cheating, it's knowing what words to use to effectively get your point across in a way that the people reading the form will actually recognise as valid.

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