AIBU to pop the shops with my pox riddled daughter?

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Daughter has erupted in pox spots overnight. She's ok in herself, a bit over emotional (she's 4).

So Sunday's activity is out obviously.

I've promised to make cakes with her, now I've realized I need actual stuff to make them.

WIBU to take her to the shop? Large supermarket in town 10minutes away, and possibly the pound shop for occupying tat?

I've got no one else to look after her, her grandparents are away and my husband is working and won't be home until 8pm. Couple of local friends are busy/avoiding the pox.

So, can we nip out?

can u do click and collect tesco - so only driving in collect and out again

As everyone else says - it's really dangerous for anyone vulnerable.

The Tesco Express / Click and collect ideas are pretty good.

If not - let us know what you do have in your cupboards and we can come up with some ideas. Butter, porridge oats and golden syrup makes a lovely flapjack. And is easy enough for a 4 year old to do with little supervision. You can then add melted chocolate or icing to the top and let her go wild with cake decorating bits.

Or just icing and cake decorating stuff on plain biscuits are always popular here......

Questions like this come up every week. It's always obviously no

I'm actually not an idiot

Unfortunately, your claim that "It's chicken pox totally fine go to the shop" proves otherwise in this instance.

Feel your pain-we were stuck in for 8 days and am waiting for a repeat with ds2 this week. Make something you do have the ingredients for or ask a friend/neighbour. I took him out for walks in the early morning after work/school rush so we didn't go completely mad and we tried to enjoy the unstructured pyjama days.

Find a petrol station M&S ...

Make drop scones. Milk, eggs, flour.

Hookandswan my mum is immunocompromised and chicken pox could kill her. I hope she never ends up stood next to someone like you in a shop.

Or jam tarts. Flour, Marge, water, jam..

actually if she is four jam tarts are the business, very hands on. Personally I wouldn't eat them after made by a four year old' but that is not the point.

I would have gone anyway. But then I wouldn't have asked here first. Our LG started with the CP on our way to visit family so we called ahead and they were fine for us to stay. Our week wasn't really curtailed by the CP- she napped a little more often than usual but was fine and not even all that itchy. We visited people who were okay about the pox and went to outdoor visitor attractions or the beach etc...
I'd imagine more people catch Cp from people before the spots emerge so this self imposed (or MN imposed?) quarantine is a little OTT and like closing the stable door after the horse has gone...

To the poster who hasn't had it and was worried when she was pregnant, didn't you get blood tested to see if had immunity?

I've never had chicken pox, so with both my pregnancies I was checked for the antibodies (via booking in bloods) and I so have natural immunity.

if she comes in to contact with someone with chicken pox she either has to take a course of anyibiotics within 24 hours

I'm guessing you mean antivirals? Antibiotics don't work on Pox.

OP, whether or not you can go to the shops with her is entirely dependant on how much risk you're happy to expose other people to. Your DD's virus could well be fatal if she passes it to the wrong person.

Go and knock on next door and ask if you can borrow some bits, we are forever passing eggs/butter/milk over the fence

Completely unsurprising response from mumsnet. People here just like to have something to feel shocked/horrified/judgemental about even if it is OTT and clearly doesn't work like that in the real world.. I'm with Isadora on this. What do we do about all the other bugs and illnesses we all get which are contagious? Should we hide away every time? What about the time before the spots are out? Funnily I remember being told not to go to GP with suspected flu (I think it was the flu) but by contrast when we rang the GP with suspected CP we were told to make an appointment to get it checked up... So surely they didn't expect us to hide from the world.. Anyway as I said a very unsurprising response :)

Totally agree with KormaChameleon.

I caught chickenpox from some selfish twat (like the ones commenting here) when I was eight months pregnant with DS. It was very dangerous, very scary and I was very, very ill.

Please just stay home for a few days. It's not that hard!

I'm assuming you have never read one of MrsDV's posts about how her daughter's exposure to CP when she had cancer made her suffering so unbearable oblada? Because I don't think you can read a post like that and not have it put things into very sharp focus.

There is obviously a massive difference between knowingly doing something and unknowingly. If it helps, knowingly putting people at risk without a very, very good reason makes you a cunt. Doing it unknowingly does not make you a cunt.

If thinking putting people needlessly at risk is a cuntish thing to do is "the Mumsnet response" then MN is to be commended

by contrast when we rang the GP with suspected CP we were told to make an appointment to get it checked up.

And you chat see any difference between a jaunt to Tescos and a GP visit...?

op make some chocolate fridge cake instead with your dd, as long as you have biscuits, chocolate and butter then your good to go! Much more fun to make than cupcakes.

I don't know if it's a MN thing but I've never heard this "stay indoors the whole time and avoid the world" anywhere else.. it borders on hysteria!!

I have friends and family who are in medical profession / in education and yes we have an immunocompressed family member (they can't be around any bugs so we inform them of any significant illnesses) and I've also had 2 pregnancies despite never having had CP I have natural immunity as was blood tested in both pregnancies , both my kids have actually now had CP [one of them twice and we went to GP second time as obviously I didn't think it was CP] and yet never have I heard such forceful opinions about CP. Even the GP I saw didn't see fit to tell me I had to keep DC under lock and key.

Look I get it, I've never had CP so before I knew I was immune I was always hyper vigilant about it.... I asked to be moved on a flight once as the family behind us had "sneaked" on a poxy child but life cannot grind to a halt because your child has CP.

What do you do about the school run? Yes I know you can ask a friend / family to help blah, blah but my friends and family all have their own kids and jobs. They can't be doing the school run twice a day for me? And I don't drive so no leaving a poxy kid in the car

What do you do about your other kids who haven't had it but aren't showing signs?

Where does it end?

My DC1 has just had Scarlet Fever and we have a girl recovering from Leukemia in his class. As soon as he was diagnosed I contacted the mum and she was very thankful but pointed out she is very aware of all the risks and I wasn't to worry. I assume most immunocompressed people are very risk aware? My family member is... sadly they have to avoid a lot of "everyday stuff" as literally any bug - even a cold - is an ordeal for them.

Of course parents of poxy children need to be responsible (mine had it in the summer. One after another, then the little one got it again....) so we stuck to home or granny's garden whilst they were contagious.... but we still walked the streets to get to granny's. We didn't literally stay in for 3 weeks solid!!

Woah, some extreme responses!
No fear o wise ones - I took her out in the car, still in her Jammie's, she fell asleep and I nipped into a tesco express for emergency wine supplies.
Perhaps I should've gone in full CBRN get up but that's packed away at work and that's 40 miles away.

She's happily scoffing a freshly baked fairy cake resplendent with sprinkles and viral matter.

Loads spare, anyone want one?

Its called risk management. you manage the risk. no one is suggesting you stay locked inside for 3 weeks. but this child in this particular incidence - ie the one we are posting and talking about - literally went down with CP today. she is therefore highly infectious.

you keep away from people until the spots have crusted over. this might take a couple of days and certainly not 3 weeks.

Yes of course there are people who took their kids on a flight or who don't see what the problem is because life goes on. but unfortunately they are knobs. they haven't got an immunocompromised child themselves and have no empathy for anyone else that has one. for immunocompromised people who come into contact with these knobs, sometimes life doesn't go on. but then how would the knobs know?

my immunocompromised child couldn't be risk aware because they were a child. I had to do it for them and I had to assume that there were a lot of knobs out there who "didn't see the harm in it" because my childs life wasn't worth their child staying inside for a couple of days.

honestly, some people just think about their own bubble and not the wider world.

thank you frankie on behalf of the immunocompromised. I bet the fairy cakes are delicious and wouldn't mind one myself.

I do think a picture is needed - just to be sure

pinot such an effort you went through but I thank you for doing that. If I was on the bus or in the doctor surgery and you had just caught the bus and then gone in to the doctors, then I could be dead now. It really is as serious as that, I've been told that if I come in to contact with chicken pox I'm to go straight to the hospital and I will likely be given a bed in high dependency unit. So your efforts really could have saved a life, and you wouldn't know it from looking at people. You really did go the extra mile but I promise you that it was worth it

This isn't just MN and it's not new. My daughter is nearly 25. She got chickenpox when she was 2. No internet then, no Mumsnet, just the GP surgery and a few baby books. The advice was absolutely clear: we had to stay at home until the spots crusted over. We did. Unfortunately pretty much immediately that happened her baby brother came out in spots too, so we started another bout of quarantine. This is how it is with little ones.