AIBU to use this in pancakes later?

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Plain flour, BBE Oct 2013
Eggs, BB 2nd Jan

Flour been in a sealed container. I've spread it out on a dark plate & no sign of movement to indicate weevils, is it safe to eat?

Eggs kept in fridge & I tested them in water, they sink, so still use able...?

Or am I putting us all at risk!! I hate food waste & I'm short on time to shop, obviously I don't want to make us ill but nor do I want to throw away food if it's actually fine to eat, too much of that goes on in the world. WWYD?

catkind see previous answer re salmonella

And that's total fucking bollocks from the earlier poster about getting salmonella from an egg that smelled fine. You're far far more likely to have caught it from a dodgy sandwich.

The entire British laying flock are vaccinated against salmonella, so all the eggs you buy in supermarket etc will not have salmonella.

That's why the NHS advice re runny eggs has changed for pregnant women, they finally caught with the times and confirmed its perfectly safe because British hens are vaccinated.

The only way you could have caught it from eggs is if you'd had them from someone with a backyard flock, but tbh in my experience most folk ensure they have vaccinated hens because they aren't going to want to risk salmonella themselves.

If the flour doesn't look or smell noticeably not like flour and the eggs don't smell when you crack them then they're fine to use. Milk and yoghurt are also things you can use well after use by dates - use your sense of smell, that what it's there for. If you want to reduce waste, use your senses and don't rely on use by/best before dates. The exceptions would be meat which can be bad without you knowing.

I'd use both, but sieve the flour to double check.
Eggs keep for months in a fridge - it's not like they've been in a jar of isinglass in summer heat! And the whole point of making cheese and yoghurt was to preserve milk - again, keep for months in a fridge.

As a rule, if pre-fridge communities eat something after storing it, it'll be fine.

Now ready-chopped fruit goes off before the use-by date...

I'm sick of being to told that rice should NEVER be reheated.

It's something we always did as a family and I've always done since leaving home, and I have never been ill from it. I don't think people believe me.

(I know this thread isn't about rice)

Dame - me too. I've never had a stomach upset and regularly leave things overnight on the counter.

To the OPs question, I wouldn't hesitate to use them. I wouldn't have even bothered with the floating egg thing, if they stink don't use them.

Eggs keep for months in a fridge

Noooo, never keep eggs in the fridge! Unless you are somewhere like the US where they wash eggs, so you have to. Eggs should be kept in a cool dark place but never a fridge, the shells are porous and they can absorb not only smells from other foods but also any stray bacteria, from raw meats etc. They won't last as long in the fridge either.

Shops don't put eggs in the fridge, neither should you.

How can someone have stuff in their cupboards that old? Don't you check them and clean the cupboards regularly?!

"I'm sick of being to told that rice should NEVER be reheated."

You can reheat rice. The important thing to remember is that if you cook rice to reheat later it needs to be cooled quickly. The bacillus cereus bacteria produces toxins that multiply at warm temperatures, so you either keep the rice hot, in a rice cooker for example, or you cool it. Leaving it in a warm room for several hours is not a great idea.

Nuking it in the microwave won't kill the toxins if they are already there.

I've had food poisoning from reheated rice as a child, it was awful and I still remember it. I've never reheated rice.

I wish I hadn't bloody googled Weevils.

I wish I hadn't bloody googled Weevils.

I still don't know what one is but I really don't want to google now!!

They're only beetles.

DameSquashalot I reheat rice at least 3 times a week and have doen for years, never been ill from it.