Misleading salary - pro rata

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Doesn't even remotely effect me, but as a contractor I see this all the time as I am jobs boards a lot sourcing my next line if work.

However AIBU to think job adverts for part time roles should just state the actual pay a person will get, not however much pro rata?

It's so misleading, and doesn't make it easy to compare salaries, as pro rata could meet anything! The whole recruitment market is so under regulated in my opinion (I was recently asked by a recruiter what my childcare arrangement was and if I plan on having anymore children, like it's any their business, I am applying for a job that I feel I am capable of, my childcare or child rearing status has no impact)

Probably about 3 AIBUs here!

No I'd say your colleagues are correct. You have a pro rata salary, you're not on an hourly wage. Do any of you submit timesheets?

It is misleading. They may do it to make the pay look higher than it is but it could also just be due to a lack of thought/intelligence e.g. they may do it because everyone else does. If the hours are negotiable they can put the salary range in. If they want to make it easier to compare jobs they could put the pro rata salary in brackets.

I don't see your point there Nacho
Why should you get paid overtime when your colleagues don't?
Say that you work until 5 each day but often stay until 5.15 to get stuff done. You do it 3 days a week and your colleagues do it 5 days a week. You are all working over hours. If some were claiming over time then that would be unfair.

"When we just say "part time" with out bejng specific it is because we are open to a discussion about the number of hours /when they are worked."

So why not state hourly rate and 'hours to be negotiated min X max y hrs' ?

"I'm surprised people are disgusted

. That is the way the world works in big companies and at a senior level people are expected to know their worth." I've worked for many different companies, and of course have family and friends in many different careers, including several on 6 figure (and more) salaries, never come across this.

"Graphista im not sure you understand how discrimination works - mere presence of a protected characteristic isn't going to end with me being in "deep shit" you'd need to demonstrate there has been discrimation " you mean like paying the person without the protected characteristic FIFTY PER CENT MORE without a demonstrable good reason you mean?

"Oh, they know what they are willing to pay, they just don't want to tell you, in the hope you can survive on less/are too scared to ask for much." Exactly! And that's unfortunately especially true for women and others regularly discriminated against who are all too aware they're already at a disadvantage!

"This kind of bollocks is part of the reason for the gender pay gap." Well said!

"When I've mentioned this to my salaried colleagues at meetings when extra work outside of hours is discussed, they say 'we're not paid for it either' but I say 'yes, you're on a salary whereas we are pro rata so get a portion of our salary so surely if we work extra we should get a higher portion of our salary' but this is ignored as they are all feeling overworked an underpaid too." A reason all jobs should also be PAID per hour - would stop employers getting free labour! My mum was high level retail worker - regularly ended up working stupid amount of hours for no extra pay!

Also if employers weren't able to get free labour there'd be more jobs/better paid employees. That would stimulate a growth in the economy too.

School admin here and I have never been able to work out how my pro-rata is calculated; there is no combination or permutation of hours/rate that agrees with what's on my payslip. Still, it's a few pence more than any figure I come up with so I let it go but yes OP it is bloody annoying and no, we are not thick as so many are suggesting!

4 + ? = ? Sums it up completely.

OhGod - is it not written in your contract? I'm school staff and the calculation is documented in there.

My niece applied for a job ( and got it) just before Christmas. She is 21 years old, but didn't realise what pro rata meant! The post is 25 hours per week so she is getting a lot less salary wise than she expected.

I think to avoid any possible confusion, it would be good practice to say what the actual salary is - for the hours advertised and then put the pro rata in brackets?

Or teach Latin again in school? :)

What! This is totally criminal! Don't you have any morals?

The post is from 2017, why are you resurrecting it 7 years later?

And that's why the world is so horrible, because of awful people like you milking workers for all they're worth to line your own pockets.

You took advantage of a worker because they weren't aware you would pay them more (when you paid someone else double for the same job). For all you know that person is so desperate they'll take anything you give them, you have no idea what's going on in their life to make them accept a lower pay. It's truly despicable. If you employ two people to do the same job then you bloody well pay them the same.

I hope you get an incurable disease and lose all your wealth, or else change your ways.

I was just browsing and reading that infuriated me so much I felt I had to say something!

You're not likely to get a response from such an old thread though

Apologies, I didn't really look at the date before posting. I arrived here from a google search.