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Abolish High Income Child Benefit Charge....

138 replies

Mewli · 21/02/2017 22:48

Because it is an ill thought of tax. Any tax that is signed into law must at least be broadly fair. If the Government could not be asked to design a law appropriately then they shouldn't collect this tax. The HMRC taxes those families with a single person earning £50,000 and above, but leaves families with couples earning £49,999 each . I feel this tax was allowed to pass because it was just easier to convince the electorate that these "rich people"(earning £50,000 and above should pay more ) instead of designing an appropriate tax. Angry

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MorningsEleven · 16/01/2019 22:28

It should be based on household income.

misschip72 · 17/01/2019 11:13

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/236407/sponsors/new?token=l9lu5WIKKVxZitHClUd

I have a petition about this - I need 5 people to sign before it can go live. Please sign if you think it’s unfair

MoaningSickness · 17/01/2019 12:04

I'm saying 2 people earning £49,999 should get it but a couple with one earning £55k shouldn't because if you can afford the luxury of a SAHP you shouldn't be relying on government benefits at all

So it's fair that of two couples, both in full time work, the one earning 49,999 and 49,999 get it, but the one earning say 19,998 and 50,000 don't?

The couple earning 30k more deserve/need the extra money because...?

It's so obviously, trivially, unfair, that it's bizarre to me that people try to drag their own opinions on being a sahp or single parent into it.

Thehop · 17/01/2019 12:07

It’s definitely fair to have a cut off point, but it definitely should be household income not individual

misschip72 · 17/01/2019 12:18

My petition is based on it being on total household income..

Neverunderfed · 17/01/2019 12:20

It should never have been means tested in the first place.

user139328237 · 17/01/2019 12:31

It should be means tested but to base it completely on a single income is wrong, but equally there is no reason why the choice to have a stay at home parent shouldn't face financial costs. Personally I'd like to see it withdrawn for families with a stay at home parent, and a slightly higher limit (around £60-65,000) imposed for families with a single parent and a combined limit of around £70,000 for families with 2 working parents. I'd also like to see stay at home parents have to pay voluntary national insurance contributions (lets say £100 a month) if they would like to earn their state pension.

Purplewren · 17/01/2019 13:33

User 139328237 the 1% elite will love you with options like yours.

Purplewren · 17/01/2019 14:11

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229641
There is already a petition to stop child benefit on a household income rather than single earner. Please sign up if you think it is unfair for a family who take home £6,236 per month still receive child benefit against families who take home £3,400 and don’t receive child benefit. 🤔

larryharryhausen · 11/09/2019 16:03

www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/social-security/child-benefits-germany-kindergeld

It seems that German citizens get 204 euros a month per child for their first two children regardless of parents' income. If they do it in Germany, then why are UK people so resentful about doing this?

Userzzzzz · 11/09/2019 16:18

We don’t qualify and I can’t get too worked up about it but the system is stupidly designed and single parents are unfairly penalised in my view. MAybe there should be exemptions for single parents or two parent households where one of the parents is disabled or a career.

For anyone just above the threshold, extra pension payments might help.

Biker47 · 11/09/2019 16:22

If it were up to me, the only two options would be, it's abolished totally, or is awarded to everyone equally, neither will ever happen though.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 11/09/2019 17:49

I agree, either award it to everyone or scrap it completely. Means tested benefits just encourage less personal responsibility.

Better to scrap it and put more money into schools or early years childcare.

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