About being thrown in with "snowflakes" and "Millenials"

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I'm just really fed up with the wording of all these articles slagging off under 35s as lazy, work shy and entitled. Not all of us are like how these articles describe!
I'm 33,I have a good standard of education, I can read and write very well, I work hard (worked 3 13 hour shifts on a busy hospital ward this week so far), I'm bringing up my two kids (15 & 3) to be thoughtful, polite, and hopefully hard working members of society, yet I'm in this stupid age bracket named "Millenial" where no one has a good word to say! Yes, I notice that some younger people can come across as lazy and perhaps entitled, but surely that happens with every generation!
I've told my DD (15) in no uncertain terms that when she starts work this summer, she will be expected to pull her weight, she will be paid peanuts, she will be at entry level and remain so for possibly years, but eventually hard work will pay off... and she is fully on board with this! Yet she too will be demonised as a "snowflake" purely on the basis of the year she was born!
Gahhhhh! Sorry just needed a rant this morning!!

Just stop reading the dm (spit)

Oooh, I didn't know what the millennial cut of was and I'm 35, just made it. But I seriously don't fit the description of a millennial (thanks partly to the privilege of not leaving education around the crash) and even if I was 28, it wouldn't bother me. I still wouldn't expect people to see me as a millennial assuming my life and attitude was as it is now.

Haven't older people ALWAYS complained that younger people are lazy and have had a softer life?

It feels like those saying "OMG I'm not like them " are buying into the "lazy entitled overgrown teenager" stereotype, which is very sad.

Stop caring so much.

It's like saying all academics are lentil eating, sandal wearing boffins out of touch with reality. It's a sweeping statement that in reality applies to 0.01% of that sector of society.

Put your energy into something that matters not worrying about this crap.

Trills - this is the confusing part, some PP and factions of the press say I am a millennial, some say I'm not... but the main point is that I'm not lazy, I'm not entitled, neither are my friends or work collegues...and there is a wide range of ages there (18-35).
Same as the baby boomer thing - not everyone in that generation has their own house, an excellent pension, loads of money, no worries etc... it's just generalising and I think it causes frustration all over.

Yorkshire - I know, I know. It's a stupid thing to get worked up about ( excuse - grumpy and tired after many long shifts this week).

I have the same thing - may be too young to be a baby boomer, may be not and apparently I have had it very lucky with free university eduation (even though my parents had to pay and only 15% of people went!), houses we were virtually given they were so cheap (I wish!) etc etc. I have no pension as given the money to my children (and ex husband) and will work until I die.

If we could all come together, young and old and pro and anti Brexit and just get on together and accept life is hard for lots of people and we have different views but must find ways to find common ground things would be a lot nicer.

Where - I'm 33 so yes classed a millennial (just!)

Enormous - exactly! This generalisation helps no one and I feel creates bad atmosphere.
The climate right now feels fraught thanks mainly to politics...I guess my point is see past the age, look at the person

I assumed millennials were those born in, or after 2000. Teens glued to devices, that kind of unfair generalisation.

DS was born in 2000. He's a sixth form student; has a job; is polite; helps around the house...

I don't like sweeping generalisations of any generation. My parents managed to get through the 60s without getting stoned once, despite living a hippyish lifestyle.

Every generation says this about the younger generation. Partly because each new generation comes along and blames (often quite fairly) all their problems on the previous generation. They also think they have all the answers and can make the 'perfect world'. They won't. And in 30 years time their kids will be blaming the results of what they did do trying to achieve it for all their problems too.

Another reason for my frustration is that I occasionally work with a couple of school leavers and they work really, really hard yet get paid a lot less than me.
They never complain about it, and accept that it's just how it is, but I feel bad for them that they aren't paid based on merit rather than age.

There is a thread on gransnet about this, the consensus seems to be that young people just need to knuckle down and work harder just like their generation did. I work about 4 times more than my parents had to for half the amount of stuff, it's just the way it is though. A lot of this just sets generations against each other which isn't helpful. I do wish the older generation would stop voting tory though.

Shockers - that's what I thought but apparently not.
Your DS sounds great and no doubt will go far...I know many who are similar so there's much hope for this generation yet I guess!

By saying you don't want to be "thrown in" with the snowflakes and Millennials, you are buying in to the stereotypes and basically justifying the existence of these pointless buzzwords.

So well done for that...

We are getting too divided nad people are moving into camps almost - left wing, right wing, white, black, old, young. It is not nice and it is not right and we all need to stop it and I include myself in this - every time I see myself thinking like this I will try to stop it. We all need to do that. It is not us and them. It is all of us together listening to the view points of others. My children all 5 of whom are now adult including the 18 year olds are not entitled snowflakes. Most new generations do have some things easier than the one before in some respects but that is not their fault. I had no central heating as a small child. My parents had bombs pouring from the sky on them in WWII and their parents had hardly enough to eat etc but that does not mean we should say to every next new generation - lucky you; you never had things hard. There will be things harder for each new generation than the one before in all kinds of areas. People can only live with the circumstances presented to them.

It is very very easy to fall into generalisations - if only the old, the jews, the muslims, the blacks or whatever did XYZ then all would be well. These generalisations are often a very bad thing.

In fact the divisions we now have and abuse between different groups - terms like "remoaners", "snowflake", "feminazi" all being bandied around are not going to do any of us any good at all. We need to consider everyone's viewpoint and be kind to others.

Stew - I think all school kids work so much harder than we did, from year one up. My daughter is so much harder working and focused in year 7 than I ever was. I hate it when people rip into their exam results, all I see is hard working teenagers with a hell of a lot of obstacles in their way.

Dame - yes, there seems to be a "fence" up right now, can get very Young VS Old ( and I guess it's been like that forever!) but in the current climate I just feel we need to value good and decent members of society, whatever their age.
It's very unfair to deem all under-35s as lazy and entitled, just as it's unfair to deem all over-50s as over the hill and useless...it's so untrue!
Generalisation is a bad thing is the moral I guess

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Had no.idea what I was. Generation X apparently.

I've always quite liked being GenX, though. It's the only remotely cool thing about me.

OP, labels are labels are labels. Anyone of any intelligence takes them with a massive pinch of salt. It's human nature to blame the older/younger generations for society's ills.

Show - I realise it reads that way, perhaps I didn't word it right...I'm just fed up with these assumptions about so called millenials. They (we) aren't lazy or entitled - sure, there's a few bad apples, as there are in every generation, but everyone I know who falls into this bracket is so far from this description it just winds me up

This crops up quite a lot in my line of work both in terms of what we see with our teams and what we hear from our clients. From what I understand, the age based trends (and they are trends not absolutes) are a real thing. Issues arise when you have multiple generations working together more than they ever have before which causes friction. My experience is that the millennials i work with (which is loads) have different levels of entitlement than I ever did as a solid gen xer. however, that doesn't mean no work ethic, rather a work ethic which gets them where they want to go as fast as they can - so happy to change jobs quickly rather than work up through the ranks for example. They tend to question the status quo more which is good but threatening to baby boomers/gen xers. It's really interesting theory.

Spank - yes GenX seems to be the cool kids group I missed out on that one!

Its no fun being older either as you apparently:

--> Are robbing the younger generation because you own a house
-->Have no right to live in that house especially if it is bigger than a single room which is all you are entitled to if you are "old"
-->A bigot/ racist by default!
--> Massively rich - especially if you have a pension
--> Never did anything to promote the causes of women
-->Walk too slowly, go on cruises, waste money
--> Were a useless parent anyway and are now a useless, interfering MiL who ought not to be allowed to live!!

See it for what it is OP. It is bigotry whoever it is aimed against.

I have never spoken of any generation like that - and never would.