to start giving my DC squash even though they're happy with just water?

[Clemmythyme]

I have two DDs aged 4 and 2. Both happily drink water and don't ask for anything different to drink. DD4 has tried squash at GPs and parties and likes it but has never asked for it at home. DD2 hasn't tried it but obviously would probably like it as it's sweeter than water.

I'm thinking of beginning to buy and offer squash because I'm concerned they're not drinking enough. Neither drank anything with breakfast today, they had probably a quarter of a small cup of water with lunch, half a small cup after swimming and hardly anything with dinner. AIBU to think this isn't enough and to introduce squash to try and encourage them to drink more?

ojo, try looking at sports coaching websites, etc, which highlight some of the dangers in only offering water to active children. I think you probably should change your policy, if that parent's child gets even mildly dehydrated in your care when they have asked for squash to be available, then you will be in a lot of trouble, Ive known this happen in an afterschool club, and the fallout cost several staff their jobs. Mild dehydration is quite common, but if you have made low sugar squash available you won't be held responsible.

user you've shot yourself in the foot there. What you are saying is that because all the precious snow flakes are so used to only drinking squash and refuse water, when only water is offered they get dehydrated because they refuse to drink it, but would drink the squash. Your science was not sound there on causality.
A child drinking 3cuos of squash won't get dehydrated compared to a child drinking 0 cups of water

You have been brainwashed by the squash industry.

user I'll start. A 30 kg child, with circulating blood volume about 2.7 L drinks 120ml of water. It is absorbed from the gut - what next?

First, find out if they are really dehydrated.
Second, if they are, start offering water much more often than three times a day.
Third, contemplating giving them a sugary drink is contemplating signing them up for a lifetime of sugar addiction and the consequent tooth decay and other implications. Just don't do it. This is not the way forward. It is a way backwards, really.

nolonger user has clearly thought through that when you drink water it goes straight from your stomach to your bladder to preserve life and the body from exploding. Non of this rubbish that has been reported for centuries about water being absorbed from the bowel, into the blood stream and through all the organs and then into the kidneys and the bladder. That there is some proper made up shit.

OP sugar free drinks are so laden with sweeteners that they're not great themselves. The post by the PP and the information from dentists is sound.

Ice cubes. Crushed ice.

The thread is about two kids who like water and who dont have any particular medical problem. I understand that there are some cases where it might be appropriate for a child to have squash but in general it's clearly best for DC to be given water.

Apart from medical exceptions then the odd glass of squash as a treat is ok if that's what your kids like. I ever gave my kids squash as they preferred water and because they preferred to have sweets as their treats.

Unfortunately Some tap water doesn't taste very nice but its better if its cooled.

Lol at exploding bodies.

youwillnotseeme and none of the complicated systems, mediated by hormones, that keep the body's sodium concentration static through varying fluid intake. Nope - a child with 2.7 L of circulating blood volume is at risk of their cells exploding if they drink a glass of water.

Just stick to water. Juice with sugar is bad for teeth. Even sugar free juice is acidic and will effect teeth.

Lol at exploding bodies who said anything about exploding bodies? We were talking about cell, if you have never seen it take a look down your DCs microscope. Not quite so spectacular I'm afraid, but equally, can and does kill, in extreme circumstances. Fortunately our bodies can mostly deal with excess water just by peeing it out before serious damage.

but in general it's clearly best for DC to be given water. no not clear at all, in general best not, although like I said, water isn't terrible.

user you've shot yourself in the foot there. What you are saying is that because all the precious snow flakes are so used to only drinking squash and refuse water, when only water is offered they get dehydrated because they refuse to drink it, but would drink the squash. Your science was not sound there on causality.

you have completed misunderstood what I was saying.

Child was active and dehydrating, child drank too much water, because she was thirsty, and water does not rehydrate! Mother had asked for squash to be on offer, but it was not,

child hospitalised, after school club settled out of court, manager and two members of staff sacked.

user are you inferring that a drink of water dilutes the intravascular fluid to the point where cell explosion can and does occur?

Actually, I'm out. It's like arguing that the earth isn't flat. You stick with your theory that ingested water doesn't really mix with the rest of the body's fluids and is quickly shunted away by ? What?

In the meantime, whilst reading your science texts you're alluding to I'd recommend reading about renal physiology and the renin-angiotensin system.

water does not rehydrate

they get water from the food they eat too! don't give them squash if they are happy with water.

when I was 5, DM took me to drs because she was concerned I wasn't drinking enough.

Dr simply said "she drinks what she needs; don't give it a second thought". And I was fine.

As it happens, when I hit my teens, I swung the other way and drank LOADs of water.

I wouldn't introduce squash.

water does not rehydrate or only to a very limited extent, what is so difficult for you to understand about that?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2545911-About-toddler-group-snacks?pg=2&order=

user1484226561 is either Blue14, Kellyanne Conway, or both.

I'm still about the statement 'water does not rehydrate'.

What special powers does squash have that magically affect the properties of the water that it is diluted in?

It's difficult to understand because it's wrong and demonstrates your ignorance of human physiology. You've also given no evidence to back up her assertion that water goes straight through an inadequately hydrated child.

It's "alternative facts" science.

Tracey: Squash has artificial sweeteners in and still contains the natural sugar in the fruit that's in the Squash!!!!

You surely wouldn't drink the same quantity of undiluted squash as fresh fruit juice though. You only need to compare the nutritional content of fresh juice and squash to see that fresh juice has considerably more sugar per portion.

P.s. user you are talking to a dead person. Due to a medical condition I have weeks where I only drink water. No tea/squash/juice/slice of lemon/milk/smoothie nothing. I just drink water, no special electrolytes nothing.
You are right, it doesn't hydrate me. The first time I died after 3 days of dehydration and kidney failure from nothing but leaky water. The remaining times I died was due to all that water overload and cell rupture/explosion as my body couldn't handle the water, and the electrolytes it also drew into my blood stream for the food in my bowel.
Woooooooooooooooo

YouWillNotSeeMe you lasted three days? Bloody hell. I went for a run on a hot summer's day once. Sweated buckets, you know, t-shirt dripping? Got home, drank nothing but water and BAM! I was dead two hours later. Coroner said it was massive haemolysis, could have been prevented by adding squash to the mains water supply. After I got better from being dead I sued North West Water for a hundred trillion pounds and won. It's why everyone's bills went up in Manchester.

Water does not hydrate effectively if the person concerned has lost so much salt from sweating that their body just pees out the water they drink to maintain an electrolyte balance. However, in several years of distance running in temperatures of 35 degrees+, drinking... water......and sweating profusely (I can lose 2kg over a 20k run easily even with 2L of water drunk) the only time that has happened to me was when I did a multi-day desert race (it's a really weird experience and not one I recommend). I think we can safely assume that a kid playing footie for an hour or so or the average 2&4 year olds are unlikely to be suffering the same issues.

Water is a perfectly adequate drink in 99.99% of circumstances (although nor do I subscribe to the "if it isn't pure water it won't hydrate you" school because that's bollocks as well)

We actually have squash added to the water supply where I live. Plain
water is considered too dangerous and is banned. I have to buy it from
Illegal water touts to make tea. But we haven't had a case of death from
cell explosion for ages.