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AIBU?

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To be really quite annoyed with my MP?

37 replies

CruCru · 05/02/2017 15:09

This morning, I saw Emily Thornberry on the Andrew Marr show. He pointed out that 75% of her constituency voted Remain (she'd voted in favour of the Article 50 bill) and she said that she is a "national politician".

AIBU to find this infuriating? The nation didn't elect her, Islington South did.

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Nanny0gg · 05/02/2017 19:00

We elect MPs (in theory) to make decisions on our behalf.

If that decision making process is passed back to us and they have to ratify then they should do so in line with what their constituents want.

And I voted Remain.

bringmelaughter · 05/02/2017 19:05

The amazing MP Rachael Maskell voted against the whip for remain which was the decision of her constituency during the Brexit vote. She resigned her shadow cabinet place in order to do this.

MadHattersTea · 05/02/2017 19:10

MPs are supposed to act in the best interests of the nation and of their constituents.
What was extraordinary about the Article 50 vote was that the vast majority of MPs voted FOR something they KNOW will be a disaster for the nation and for their constituents.

slightlyglitterbrained · 05/02/2017 19:11

Thing is, the referendum vote was so vague, you could claim the Leave vote represents anything from "just want extra money for the NHS" all the way over to Farage's most lubricious wet dream.

But given that the Tory/others campaign for Leave wasn't about Farage, it's fairly difficult to justify that all 52% meant to vote for the most extreme (but still fucking woolly) option presented.

And thanks to May deciding that the white paper didn't need to be published before the parliamentary vote, you could probably argue that even a Brexiter could be justified in voting "no, not yet, because I don't know what I'm voting for and want some leverage".

So frankly, the size of the Yes vote suggests they're a bunch of morons who deserve to lose their seats. It was an opportunity to push back at May's "It's all a secret and I'm not going to tell you ner!" attitude.

Aderyn2016 · 05/02/2017 19:13

They are in no position to KNOW what the outcome of Brexit will be. It rather depends on factors which haven't been decided yet. All anyone can offer is a best guess scenario

slightlyglitterbrained · 05/02/2017 19:16

It's fairly clear though that the most extravagant "have our cake and eat it" scenarios are off the table, and subsequent developments in the US make it clear that any deal there will likely involve some very unsavoury compromises.

80sMum · 05/02/2017 19:26

I emailed my MP to let him know that I am disappointed that he voted in favour of the brexit bill, when his constituency voted Remain.

I also asked him to vote in favour of amendments to the Brexit bill which will enable Parliament to debate any brexit offer.

MadHattersTea · 05/02/2017 19:39

@Aderyn2016

I wish I could agree with you. But as Ken Clarke said, anyone who even partially grasps the complexities of the UK/EU relationship does KNOW that it is not possible to negotiate a successful exit in the time available.

If you don't believe Ken, look at what Ivan Rogers said. Or if you have any friends or aquaintances who have worked in or with Brussels, ask them.

The ratification process alone - which is required by article 50 - will take months, so the timescale to draw up a deal is far shorter that 2 years.

And once out, you have all the complexities of alternative trade deals to negotiate and no experienced people to do the work. Since you cannot negotiate a trade deal with a third party while still in the EU, this means that on exit day plus 1 we will have nothing in place.

So short of some kind of miracle it really will be a disaster. The majority of MPs in ALL political parties believe this, but they still voted to go ahead with it. How is that possible?

KathyBeale · 05/02/2017 19:57

Silly question - how do you know which way your constituency voted? I know my borough voted remain (narrowly) but there's more than one constituency in the borough. How do I know which way mine went?

TheNaze73 · 05/02/2017 20:03

Diane Abbott's behaviour was shameful

wasonthelist · 05/02/2017 20:12

Yabu we live in a representative democracy. MPs are not delegates.

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