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Please help - expectant Father with no idea what to do

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ajm77 · 31/01/2017 09:37

Hi there

I am hoping someone on here can help me as I am going through a difficult time and I need the advice of either pregnant or post pregnancy Mums.

My girlfriend is 3 months pregnant but her behaviour is driving me to the edge and I just don't know what to do.

We have been on and off for a number of years and in January 2015 I ended the relationship fully as a result of her behaviour. This was primarily around jealousy whenever I did anything without her. A particular problem was either going out with friends or catching up with female friends. The abuse I received was vile and even though there was absolutely nothing going on with these friends she would make my life a misery if I saw them. I ended the relationship after she cancelled me meeting her family for the first time because the night before I had gone to visit my oldest friend and his partner to see my godchildren and not been available to text until I left. I loved her very much but felt this was not what a stable, healthy relationship should look like.

Some 7 months later she got back in touch and I agreed to see if we could work things out. We talked and I explained my position was unchanged and I would not tolerate the false accusations, abuse and jealousy going forwards. I said I would not give up my friendships, male or female, and we agreed that she would meet these females. She insisted on it and I have nothing to hide so agreed.

Things went well and whilst there were the occasional flare ups around menstruation, I could handle this as it was 2-3 days of difficulty but otherwise she was very caring and loving.

We conceived last year and the first 3 months have been extremely difficult. It is like her menstruation behaviour is permanent and I have comforted myself with the fact hormones do go wild at this stage and been as supportive as I possibly can be.

However recently the frequency of her kick offs have been getting worse. She encouraged me to go out with a friend (male ) for a catch up which I did. She asked what time I would be back and I said I don't know, maybe 9.30 pm. I called and texted her 5 times to tell her I was overrunning and she ignored me. When I returned at 10.20 p.m. she refused to speak to me and then ripped the duvet off me. I pulled it back and she accused me of harming our child. She then refused to talk to me and stared at the wall for 12 hours before insulting me about my ex and leaving me for the day. She did not apologise. If she was not pregnant I probably would have ended the relationship.

Last Sunday she asked me if I would go out to dinner with a friend of hers who has not been very pleasant to her and who I don't think much of. I agreed and asked her in return if she would go out to dinner with my old housemate (female) and her boyfriend. She refused and has regularly kicked off about this person and demonised her for absolutely no reason.

Then the abuse started. She said I had chosen this woman over her and I said that was nonsense. However what she then does is sticks to her mind created false accusations and continually says them over and over even when I have given her information to the contrary. I consider this a form of mental abuse.

She then drove us home and sped ridiculously fast around the residential roads. I explained she was putting our child's life in danger and she said it didn't matter if she lived. She then went into vile comments about my old house mate inferring lewd acts and saying she would never be able to meet the child as she is a witch who will kill it.

I am at my wits end. I moved into her flat to make a go of it but she will not talk to me and keeps continually false accusing me. I feel that I have been duped as she has changed the agreement that we made when getting back together now she is pregnant. I also don't want to leave my child with someone who is this unstable. However I can't see any other way out than leaving. If I do I know she will make life difficult to see my child and I risk losing out on a bonding experience with my baby.

I have told her the behaviour is unacceptable to me and I feel she is ruining what could be such a special time. She refuses to put it right or apologise, she just continues false accusing and making it about the female involved when it is about the use.

My hunch is that if this was a female writing this the advice would be overwhelmingly to leave the relationship, however if you are a man it seems to be different as there is a stigma to leaving a pregnant partner, no matter how bad the abuse.

I am hoping there is someone out there who can help me and give me some advice. Any ideas please?

OP posts:
Trifleorbust · 31/01/2017 11:24

Introvertedbuthappy: I think it sounds petulant. I think it sounds unreasonable. I don't think she sounds suicidal at all.

Trifleorbust · 31/01/2017 11:25

Well, I'm no expert. I have given my opinion, that's all any of us were asked for.

DJBaggySmalls · 31/01/2017 11:26

There feels little point going to her GP or midwife as she will just deny it and make up false accusations about me

No, quit it, pick up the phone and phone her GP now.
Perinatal mental health care is critical. She sounds like she will be at high risk of post partum psychosis.

keepingonrunning · 31/01/2017 11:26

For the sake of your unborn baby, I think she needs to be screened for borderline personality disorder or similar, so the necessary support and safeguards can be put in place by child and adult health and welfare professionals.

Elendon · 31/01/2017 11:27

I've never had the hormone thing during pregnancy or otherwise so I don't understand that. I did have morning sickness though that lasted till week 30 on the last pregnancy. It's debilitating to be nauseous all the time as well as a changing body, the iron tablets and reflux.

Why did you decide to go back to her? That is the question to need to ask and need an answer for. I wouldn't try to understand her behaviour, rather seek why you have made the choices you did. My brother is in an abusive relationship and it's toxic. They did part for a year, then back on, then back off. It's exhausting listening to it and I can't even begin to understand why you would want to live it. He does it I think because he likes to be defined in terms of relationship status.

I think you should go and get some therapy about why you stay with someone like your partner. Are you able to do this? Please consider it. You come across as a bright young person who is caught is a vicious circle. It's going to get an awful lot worse when the baby arrives.

Please take care and good luck.

TENSHI · 31/01/2017 11:30

Can you record any of this? I would.

She sounds unhinged.

I feel very sorry for you, I think she is treating you appallingly and you are in a no win situation.

Have boundaries. Foul, abusive language is not on and the only way you can gain any respect from her is if you are firm.

You need to move out asap.

I am sorry you are bringing a child into this sorry mess but from now on try and put the baby first. If she cannot cope with your behaviour then do what you can to avoid her.

Keep pleasant and calm at all times no matter how much she goads so there is nothing for her to kick off.

Definitely break up with her and then keep to your terms over any communication with her.

She might have deliberately got pregnant to trap you, have you thought about that?

You will only have a relationship with your child if you keep calm so she can't accuse you of anything but do not cowtow to her emotional abuse.

Keep an open door to her on your terms only.

Unfortunately this does not bode well and she will probably use your child as emotional blackmail.

I am sorry but you need to keep sane in all this madness whether your child ends up in your life or not.

Elendon · 31/01/2017 11:30

I also meant to add that I wouldn't go to the GP about this. It might make you out to be controlling. Yes, I understand you want to control the outbursts, but have a chat with your GP on your own. Tell her your concerns.

keepingonrunning · 31/01/2017 11:34

As I understand, you can phone her GP to relay your concerns about her mental health because of her behaviour on numerous occasions. Her GP will ask her to come in for a chat. Her GP is not allowed to tell her who expressed that concern.
You could check with the GP surgery that this is the case first.

AstrantiaMajor · 31/01/2017 11:36

You are in a no-win situation. If you stay, you have a life time of being bullied. If you go, you have a life time of guilt. I would go, be financially supportive, be a part of your child's life but do not live with the mother. No child should be brought up in a home where one parent is constantly tormenting the other.

shovetheholly · 31/01/2017 11:37

I am at a loss as to why you thought that such an emotionally unstable person would make a suitable mother for your child. Given, however, that you made that decision I don't think you have any choice but to devote the next 18 years to ensuring that your baby has the most stable, grounded, loving upbringing possible. That probably means leaving this relationship, but ensuring that you have good access rights, if not sole custody.

Elendon · 31/01/2017 11:39

Would anyone suggest to bring their male partner along to the GP to talk about potential mental health issues?

BlueOnMondayNight · 31/01/2017 11:41

what about seeing a family solicitor? Sounds dramatic, I know. But they must come across situations similar to this a lot.
They might be able to give you good advice on next steps, based on their experience....

Heathen4Hire · 31/01/2017 11:43

From what you say, you sound like a caring sort, who wants to be involved in his baby's life.

You say that your partner will deny all the concerns that are floating around to her GP.

If she refuses to see the GP, or her midwife, then there isn't much you can do for your partner, all things considering. But you can still love your baby. So please seek legal advice about remaining a co-parent, being in his/her life, and financially supporting his/her upbringing.

I think you really need to leave the baby's mum. You can co-parent from a separate address. You aren't abandoning either, not really, but supporting them. No stigma at all.

LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 31/01/2017 11:53

Whatever the reason is for her behavior, you need to protect yourself and the baby. I would speak to her gp/midwife and both your families. You might need to move out but she could be a risk to herself and the baby. She must know her behavior is odd? Can you and a friend sit her down and go through everything she's done and see her reaction? The witch comment is why I think this could be mh.

keepingonrunning · 31/01/2017 11:54

Elendon No I would definitely not recommend a male partner accompanying a woman's GP visit where her mental health might be discussed. In the situation I describe, the GP would ask to see her alone.

CommonFramework · 31/01/2017 11:55

I think she needs to talk to someone about her feelings, it sounds like she is very distressed and needs some support.

Really, Titania?? Would you say the same if the poster had been female and her partner a man?!

Whippingpiccadilly · 31/01/2017 11:56

I am a mental health professional and I have to say that some of the things you have reported are quite concerning. Particularly your girlfriend saying that it doesn't matter if she lives as well as accusing you of harming your unborn baby and your friends of plotting to kill your child.

Please talk to her GP and make sure you include this information as well as the mood swings and other bizarre behaviour (staring at the wall for hours, reckless driving). It sounds as though she needs support from mental health services.

You should have a local mental health crisis team you can call in an emergency if you think she is in immediate danger of hurting herself.

TitaniasCloset · 31/01/2017 11:58

What's wrong with what I said? She does sound very distressed and does need to speak to someone.

Talith · 31/01/2017 12:12

Definitely try to get her some MH help using midwife and GP but I suggest you start keeping a log of abusive behaviour and save screenshots or any other evidence. Might seem calculating but she hasn't hesitated to use emotional blackmail this far so that prob won't change. Stay calm, and stay safe.

Niskayuna · 31/01/2017 12:13

If she were a man we'd all be merrily saying she was abusive. Refusing to let you see people and coming up with wild fantasy tales about the things you do with them, classic abuse. The "witches" and paranoia, as well as outright harmful behaviour, do seem a bit more mental health... but really, what can you do?

Unfortunately there's a child involved, so "run for the hills" isn't as easy. I'm also not going to pretend this is going to be easy for you, as a man, trying to get her help. She'll accuse you of being the aggressor, you'll be labelled 'a gaslighter' and ... well, it's just going to get very complicated. Again with the examples, if a man rang up a doctor and said 'screen my wife for mental illness' while the wife said "he's abusing me!", who are they going to believe?

Is there anyone else who can also witness her behaviour or does she save it especially for you?

Is there a chance on a 'good' day she might admit her issues and consider a GP appointment for, um, 'stress'?

Whippingpiccadilly · 31/01/2017 12:21

Niskayuna it's quite unhelpful to suggest that he won't be believed by the doctors or a mental health team.

OP please don't let that put you off seeking help, the doctors/midwife/mental health team are trained professionals and will know what to look for and how to help.

midcenturymodern · 31/01/2017 12:22

if a man rang up a doctor and said 'screen my wife for mental illness' while the wife said "he's abusing me!", who are they going to believe?

Happened to my friend. Her ex was accused of trying to make her look bad to get residency of the dcs. He couldn't get help and she died.

keepingonrunning · 31/01/2017 12:24

Nisk When there's a child involved, there's a lot OP can do. Professionals will listen to OP's concerns and make their own judgements. You don't necessarily need witnesses. Leave it to the GP's professional assessment, or the mental health crisis team. I am confident they are trained to be watchful for malicious accusations of mental health problems by a partner.

badabing36 · 31/01/2017 12:27

I'm sorry but I don't think you can leave her right now. In 6 months she will be the main carer for the most vulnerable creature in the world. If you leave now you might not get on the birth certificate and you may not be able to see your own child. Who will be brought up by someone who is either abusive or has Mh issues.

As pps have said speak to her midwife.

Whippingpiccadilly · 31/01/2017 12:28

The horror stories being touted here are not something I've experienced in my professional capacity.

Please don't let them put you off seeking help OP.

he couldn't get help and she died catastrophizing really won't help the OP here.

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