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To think some people aren't fully aware of what they are petitioning for?

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Crunchymum · 30/01/2017 15:00

Yes another Trump thread!!

I have seen Sky and BBC news both reporting that "More than a million people have signed a petition urging the government to call off President Donald Trump's state visit to the UK" - this quote is directly from BBC website

Yet that is not what the petition is for? or am I missing something?

AIBU to think some people are signing up because they want his visit scrapped completely? Which is incorrect

The petition is actually for:

Donald Trump should be allowed to enter the UK in his capacity as head of the US Government, but he should not be invited to make an official State Visit because it would cause embarrassment to Her Majesty the Queen

OP posts:
toomuchtooold · 31/01/2017 08:55

people don't always pay the maximum amount of attention to everything they're doing...when it's something important like Brexit I think it's irresponsible

FFS toomuch read back what you've written. What I meant is that it's irresponsible to give people bald choices without any context, given we don't all look at everything with a lawyer's eye - so in this case the person starting the petition has looked at what's actually achievable in terms of sticking it to Trump and come up with denying him a state visit, and the rest of us can just say "yeah, good idea, that'll really annoy him" without having to become experts in the protocol of visits from foreign heads of state. And that's fine.

MakingMerry · 31/01/2017 09:12

I think people should be doing both, KathArtic and I also think that domestic policy issues and international politics issues can be unlinked. The state of the NHS is in part down to the global economic situation, and I part to ideological policies of government. For example, Trump plans to repeal Obamacare, do we want our government to follow that ideology.

And I respect the democractic process of the Americans, but I dont see why respecting that means Trump has to have a state visit, or why UK taxpayers should fund that. I would rather taxes were spent in the NHS, elder care and teaching.

Would the average Midwest American care or even know whether Trump had a state visit, or a non-state visit?

CockacidalManiac · 31/01/2017 10:09

think people should be campaigning and supporting causes closer to home - the NHS, the crisis in teaching, care for the elderly. Trump is a democratically elected leader and the process is to invite him to the UK on a State visit. I don't agree with his actions and policies, but think we should respect those Americans who voted for him.

Go on then; tell us the protests that you're organising and participating in. Or are these just empty words, as I suspect?
The problem is now is that Brexit means Trump. Theresa May has no choice but to accept any crumbs that this conman throws us, because we're leaving the EU. People like you have to normalise Trump, and that's what you're desperately attempting to do.

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