To think that cameras shouldn't be allowed in a swimming pool

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Took my dd (4) swimming this afternoon to a well known chain of health clubs swimming pool for family swim time.
There was a woman and her two daughters (I'd guess 7 and 9) there taking photos and videos on a waterproof go pro type device. They were pointing it all over the pool (not just at each other) and underwater and Stuff. Made me feel really uncomfortable for my daughter and also my non bikini body so I told lifeguard subtlety who then promptly went over and told them to put it away.

The mum was clearly upset at being told what to do and spent the next 30 mins talking/arguing with the life guard about it and shooting me dirty looks (she'd clearly deduced it was me that had complained). Surely if she is allowed to do that some dodgy dirty character could come along and start taking photos too?!

There's signs all round the pool that say no mobile phones (caneras aren't mentioned). Aibu to have thought she was in the wrong?

Surely everyone knows you don't take cameras into swimming pools or has etiquette changed nowadays?

Many of the posters miss the point that there was a no camera rule therfore the op was right.
However, in answer to sime other posters I think that the no camera rule is the best policy. I don't want a camera shoved in my or my childrens face every 10 seconds. OK some my use covert methods but in general the quality will be poor and they will hopefully get caught and action taken.

Remember the woman -a model, I think-who recently decided to photograph a woman in her gym changing room secretly and mock her online (the woman wasn't slim). Her face had been pixellated, but the woman would still have been identifiable to many. Lots of that goes on. It must be horrible to have thousands of people around the world join in humiliating you.

The woman who took and shared the photo is a bitch, rule against cameras or not. What is sad is that blanket bans need to be implemented because a few fuckwits that don't have a sense of common decency.

"Made me feel really uncomfortable for my daughter"

I don't understand why a woman filming her 7&9 yo daughters would make you feel uncomfortable for your 4yo daughter.

Ok rose - you have a stranger film your 4 year old playing and swimming - including underwater with just a swimming costume on and see if you are vaguely bothered by it - it's intrusive and like others have said innonceny pictures can become not innocent in the wrong hands

The pool where my children to their swimming lessons (at a high school) is very strict on having no phones at the poolside. I'm not even allowed to read my Kindle, which doesn't have a camera on it (probably just as well, as it might get splashed). If you're not allowed to take photos by the poolside, then I think the same should apply in the water. Maybe they could have asked the lifeguard if they wanted to take some photos and made sure it was just themselves in the photo. It doesn't seem to be a thing with outdoor pools I've been to on holiday; it seems common to take pictures then.

This seems very precious.

No one is interested in OP's body or her daughter in a swimming costume, they are filming themselves having a good time. If OP did appear in a picture they'd crop her out.

I think it's sad that Hygellig can't read her kindle by a pool (a ziploc bag will keep it safe from splashing).

This thread seems full of fears of stranger danger. OP I think you were unreasonable.

As a general rule, I dislike being photographed or videoed without my consent. I don't think that's being precious, simply protective of my own privacy.

At a time when you can't even video the school nativity play, I think it's perfectly reasonable for a private swimming club to ban people from taking photos or videos. The chances are that the pictures will end up on Facebook (which is where all pics seem to end up these days), and other people will be able to see you and/or your child in a swimming cozzie. I can think of good reasons why a lot of us wouldn't want that to happen.

I'm with you OP. I complained at Gulliver's World when people were taking photos of the children in the splash zone. (It wasn't possible to take a photo of only your child as it was packed). Not one lifeguard took any notice of the no camera signs or those taking photos.

But saying it's fine at a holiday pool because people won't get the location from it is silly because there may well be locals there,
I grew up close to Blackpool and we used the things there in season sometimes. I'm probably in lots of backgrounds of holiday snaps less than a mile from where I went to school/lived.

If someone really wants revealing photos they're going to be putting hidden cameras in the changing rooms/showers aren't they?

I argued this at our local leisure centre. Poster said cameras were only allowed with permission, so I asked permission and was denied. We used to take the kids at 8pm on a Sunday night and were the only ones there using the small pool, so it wouldn't have affected anybody else. The GM said that if I took photos and uploaded them to social media "anyone could get hold of them and do anything to them". . I pointed out that that was actually my responsibility and that he had no responsibility for it. I took it higher and was given permission to "take a few photos whenever there was nobody else around". But it's a very lazy policy. They don't even allow photos during pool parties when only people that know the birthday child would be present. It's stupid.

including underwater with just a swimming costume on
What's the issue with a child in a swimsuit?!

It's all a bit paedogeddon is this.

Then why didn't you go and ask the person to not do near you
It's people like you that ruin it for others
You can take photos at Butlins pools
Used to at loads
If it some1 there with no kids it different but ruining someone family time
When u can just speak to them politely
Me and my kids get nice family photos together
And taking photos of your kids first swimming should not be your business
What's next banning photos at park on a nice summer day because you or kids in shorts
Because you have that kind of thoughts y ruin it for family's

I doubt the mum was bothered about your dd at all - she only would have wanted to get pics of her own children. I have taken cameras in the pool when on holiday, I actually appreciate it when they have a more relaxed policy to get a few nice family pictures of the kids enjoy taking videos of themselves on a go pro down the water slides etc. Obviously if the particular pool bans it then I wouldn’t but I think some of the worries about the risks of taking pics in pools can be a bit over stated at times.

Out of curiosity what did you think she'd do with these pictures of your none bikini body and your children. ?
Personally I would have had the guts to go up to the woman and politely say.
I appreciate you are enjoying takings photos of THEIR children. But I feel at times you are taking it of the whole pool. Which I'm afraid makes me feel uncomfortable.
And then react with whatever her reaction was.

This has happened to me twice now.
Once when I was taking a photo of my husband teaching our then 4 year old (now 6) at a caravan park. And for the record no one else when so ever was in the photo. Why would I want anyone else.

And secondly again with our 10month old boy with no one else what so ever in the pool.

Up until reading these comments. I honestly though that we were being penalised for the active peodophiles out there.

Is it not normal to want to capture Happy familes memories on a camera. And so what of it's a go pro their new fancy toy some of you have said catty etc.
So what about I'm summer.

•coumcil.parks. Shorts and a vest.
• shopping centres.
•out door bowling
|•fair grounds
| • Running.

What about bikers and Mountain bikers with their fancy toys 😹😺😺🙀😺🙀 (Thought the cats emoji fitted better)

And why is it different on holiday.? ?

Please explain.

I lifeguard duty is to observe all the time.and they change every 30mins so their fresh. It's obvious if someone is taking pictures of others and their children or their own. And especially if their alone.

So go over ask to see the photos and check. That way those who feel uncomfortable are happy and those such as myself who just want to save happy memories of my own family are not penalised.

Also I bet some of you havingassive issue with this. Use Facebook. Instrgram etc

Unfortunately for me my job for the last 20 years has at times. I have had to nurse peodophiles. And their allowed to tear pages out of the Argos book and take them their room. The sections being peddling pools with children in them.

Also they only have to look at your child and they will save that memory for relief time.

So your actions do nothing.

I think people are mistaken about paedos. While a pic in a swimming costume might be highly coveted, they won't turn down normal every day pics if your kid in the park, or on the bus, or wherever else.

I have a park near me with water features and people let their kids under about 7 run around naked. It is overlooked by buildings and there are all different people walking around and through.

I think this is less to do with paedophiles than it is to do with safeguarding looked after children from birth families who might search for them, or children at risk because their parent has had to remove them from a violent home life.

There are more looked after children and vulnerable children than you think. And the people who might cause them harm search for them far more vigorously on social media than most people realise. That’s why it’s different to take a picture in a town swimming pool than the pool on holiday- the child can be traced to a swimming pool that they visit weekly, but not one that they went to once this year on holiday.

I worked with a young boy whose neglectful birth family searched for him relentlessly and he had to be rehomed three times with different foster careers due to this, eventually ending up 200 miles away from his home town, good schools and friends. Each time this happened he was located by friends of friends of the family spotting him in photos on social media, not posted by his foster parents but in the background of other parents’ photos of football/ public events involving children.

So why only in a swimming pool are photos forbidden.
Are you familiar with the child safeguarding act?
I attend safeguarding meetings weekly and never has swimming pools been mentioned.

I'm sorry but you are going completely off track.

thecpsu.org.uk/help-advice/topics/photography/

Zombie thread

This is why I love center parcs! I can get loads of amazing photos of my child enjoying herself on the slides and in the water that you can't get anywhere else. I dont want pictures of anyone else's child in them! I can kind of understand the safeguarding issue but then you can take pictures in a hotel pool on holiday or at the beach so it's a non issue to me.

Ooray! Finally someone else who has some common sense.
And centreparcs are fine with photos. And look how give they all are. 🤔🤔🤔

@Omg1979

Why have you rez'd a zombie thread??

Rez'd ?
Sorry not familiar with the terminology. 🤔🙀

Princess raven.
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• Also there was a couple of people who had commented back in March hardly historic. Sorry zombie file.
• Also because this occured to myself 'This week' if you take the time to read my first comment/thread.
• I don't see what the problem is with "zombie" threads, do all threads that people post on have to be current?
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