TRying to sell the house with tenants in - undisclosed dog

[Newbrummie]

So had a viewing at the house yesterday and the patio was covered in dog shit, as was the garden. I figured it would take a few months to sell so was happy for them to stay whilst it was on the market. Am now starting to think this is going to be impossible isn't it ?
Can I afl them to remove the dog for the rest of the tenancy ?

OP you're not answering questions or understanding the magnitude of just getting tenants out! They have rights which you seem to have forgotten or have not educated yourself on. You also seem really bitter and angry. You're not coming across well at all

If you're in no hurry to sell, why not serve notice first.

I know mummy. (Both landlord and renter here) they can't make me clean the house can they? They may serve notice But maybe that's a risk I'm willing to take rather than be dictated into doing housekeeping I don't want to by someone else

Do you have a dog? My parents do and he shits up to 8 times a day. They pick it up every single day but theres always a turd somewhere. As long as it's all clean before they leave, it's none of your business.

*Today 16:25 Newbrummie

Trainspotting1984 Theres clauses in our agreement about standards of hygiene.... I think that covers dog shit in most reasonable people's opinion*

You still haven't answered what you are going to do about these breeches of contract.

Btw, if there is a clause in your agreement about hygiene it's not
Enforceable. You know you can't put anything you like in a contract don't you? (Even though you don't seem to know what you're going to use the contract for)

This thread makes me feel incredibly lucky to have the landlord that I currently do!

I don't understand why you can't just have an adult conversation with them RE the dog?

Got you now Trainspotting.

mum2be88 I'll be doing that

Trainspotting1984

Of course the landlord can request that you clean your house. Most tenancy agreements specify that you keep your home in a good state of repair, meaning reasonably clean.

If you don't keep your side of the contract, of course you will have to pay for a very expensive professional clean when you leave.

www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/repairs-in-rented-housing/disrepair-landlord-and-tenant-repair-responsibilities/disrepair-what-are-the-tenant-s-responsibilities/

LouBlue1507 but this wasn't a random turd which would be forgivable it was all over the garden and patio

Well what you should do is send a polite email stating that you noticed all the dog poo and would appreciate its all cleared and cleaned upon vacating the property. If not, you'll be paying professional cleaners to do it and the cost will be recovered from their deposit.

I'm assuming Newbrummie can't afford to have the property empty for possibly several months before it sells, so is trying to do viewing and get a buyer while the tenant is still paying........

Yes mambo ! AT THE END OF THE TENANCY! And cleanliness is NEVER specified in 'good state of repair* the as it is too subjective, whereas as 'used as intended' and 'in working order' are absolute measures. That's why my reports say that "dirty" simply means it will taking cleaning implements to remove... I cannot use terms such as 'filthy', it is dusty or it is dirty!

all those cheering on my tenants potentially fucking me over makes me laugh, No one is cheering them on. Just trying to explain to you that you don't have any upper hand here. The sooner you believe that the quicker you can get the right legal wheels rolling!

ex and I worked for the past 30 years for that house and it's all that stands between me and my kids spending the rest of our lives in and out of rental accommodation or trying to get social housing and I look after my rented house ! So you are skating on thin ice and could be as bankrupt as they are/were?

Please stop being defensive (and possibly scared) and start listening. If this is causing you hassle get your proper legal ducks in row and get them out!

Mambo as Blanche says what matters is how you leave the property WHEN YOU MOVE OUT. No one can dictate how you live in your residence.

Some of you would he utter fools as tenants

LouBlue1507 I shall do that.
And I'm very happy to live in the house myself whilst it sells which I think is clearly the better option.
Thanks for the comments

well, the end of the tenancy can arrive a lot quicker if people keep their rental property in a state. If someone keeps a filthy house, of course I would give him notice asap and get rid of him promptly (and legally).

I have never considered myself a second class citizen when I was renting. It felt like a luxury, just make a call when something goes wrong, no worries about boiler, roof or even bad neighbours. It's so easy to move. I don't have anything against people who rent! Shame some are, as usual, spoiling it for everybody else. Just read a few comments on here.

mambono5 well precisely, if I buy another house for investment purposes frankly it can stand empty, renting it out is more trouble than it's worth

But who would want dog shit all over their patio and garden and not clean inside their house rented or owned? Yeuk!

Loads of people service. Loads of people live like that. And thank goodness we have a legal system which allows them the freedom to
Do so

Free to live in shit ! How liberating

And that mambo, is the only other recourse a landlord has - not to renew a tenancy!

Newbrummie isn't that a contradiction? A couple of posts ago not having rent was going to put you in financial difficulties!

Honestly... renting is tricky, much more of a minefield than many imagine. But much of your angst is of your own making: your AST isn't what you wanted it to be and you are too emotionally connected to the property.

If you sell and buy another, don't like it! Just see it as an asset!

Better free to live in shit than having to forever live up to your neighbour's expectations!

Have you read 1984?

Oh I know they so used to be a district nurse.

But still can't understand it.

I used to be obviously