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to report my neighbours to the police?

69 replies

LondonKiwiMummy · 25/01/2017 20:46

Our neighbours are a group of young professional guys who don't think neighbours should get in the way of their lifestyle. Acceptable party nights can be any night of the week. Most recent one was a Tuesday.

After months of stress, lost sleep, and trying to discuss it with them, basically, we've gotten to this point:

  • they make as much noise as they want until 11pm which they've decided is an "acceptable" time to make noise until. We don't agree but attempts to persuade them otherwise have gone pretty badly (shouting). Noise is thumping music and loud shouting.
  • They turn the noise down (but not off) at 11, and not always graciously (we've had shouts from the garden at 11pm telling us to go fuck ourselves as they turn it down). Most of the time though they do turn it down at 11-ish but there is usually still a fair amount of noise.
  • If asked to turn the noise down before 11pm (which we can do by text), they've shouted abuse from their garden at us, most recently telling us to "get out of your fucking house".
  • Once after we asked them to turn it down before 11, the next day they frightened the children by screaming swear words through the wall at them early in the morning.

I'm frightened of one of them, he has a real temper and is not good at controlling it.

Council ASBO team were really good, and strongly recommended we report them to the police but we are nervous. It will make them very angry. My nightmare is that we report them to police, police go round and have a "lads will be lads eh" chat, and then they're angry at us for reporting them and then I've got my children living next to a group of aggressive and angry men.

They are private tenants, and no, their landlord could not care less.

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Ubertasha2 · 25/01/2017 21:22

I agree with -AuroraBora- that letting their employer know could be an idea. Threaten them, give them a chance, then land the sods in it.

NataliaOsipova · 25/01/2017 21:23

Two ideas. One - when I had this, the Council had a specialist noise prevention team, whose job it was to come round at antisocial hours and "catch" these sort of people. May be worth asking the council if this still exists. If I remember correctly (it was some time ago), before 10/11pm they measure the noise level from a sitting room and after that from a bedroom. But there were definitely limits and it sounds like your neighbours are breaching them.

Second - which is more underhand - find out what they do and who they work for. And write a complaint to the Council - mentioning their firm's name (a lot) and copy it to their City firm's HR department and the Evening Standard...... All's fair in love and noise war....

Mumteedum · 25/01/2017 21:23

Shouting abuse is a police matter. That's harassment. Police can be pretty good in these cases.

TweedAddict · 25/01/2017 21:24

Try and google them, use LinkedIn. I would find out where worked toi

NataliaOsipova · 25/01/2017 21:25

....oh - and definitely mention the swearing at your children in your letter. Vile obscenities. At children. While working for JP Morgan/Citigroup (change as appropriate) or whoever. You get the drift.....

myshinynewusername · 25/01/2017 21:30

Record them and send the footage to the Daily Mail. I know the DM are a bunch of fuckers, but they love this sort of story and have no qualms about plastering the names of the culprits all over their site (where their employers and their mothers will see it - haha!).

LondonKiwiMummy · 25/01/2017 21:31

Alas, I'd need to do the Daily Mail sad face - not sure I could do that!

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ohtheholidays · 25/01/2017 21:36

We had the same with a neighbour OP and we reported it to the local council and they were great,the noise we suffered was so bad(music so loud all through the night that it actually made pictures we had on the walls shake!) they threatened to throw the neighbours out if they didn't stop.
So I would speak to they're landlord,he may have an agency that deals with any problems he has with the people renting from him.

I also spoke to one of the neighbours bosses as well,they didn't go down well with the neighbour but they're boss went mad at them,she worked at the local school where some of my children went and I worked.
Speaking to her boss did stop all the crap that I'd been putting up with for the last few days.

myshinynewusername · 25/01/2017 21:36

Everybody can do a DM sad face, just think about what fuckers they are. That'll help you achieve the appropriate facial expression. Grin

DesolateWaist · 25/01/2017 21:40

I feel your pain.

Do they rent through an agency? If the landlord won't help and has little to do with it then they might be able to do something.

YippieKayakOtherBuckets · 25/01/2017 21:41

In addition to the excellent advice on here - LL will care very much if you make a formal noise complaint which will have to be declared when he wants to sell the property.

SummitLove · 25/01/2017 21:44

Do you know where they work?

Because they would probably not be too happy that their employers are partying hard in the middle of the week until all hours. Doesn't make for much job productivity does it?

Trollspoopglitter · 25/01/2017 21:46

Feel your pain too but ringing the landlord every single night would be (documented) harassment and you might have him call the police on you Confused. The landlord is a private citizen like you, and he has no power to stop them. If he chooses not to evict them, there is nothing else you can force him to do.

Trollspoopglitter · 25/01/2017 21:47

Not really Yippee... If the place would go on sale, the tenants named on the noise complaint would be out before completion/exchange.

YippieKayakOtherBuckets · 25/01/2017 21:50

Really trolls? I thought the record was for the property, not the occupant. Apologies if I am wrong.

Hassled · 25/01/2017 21:50

Is the landlord going through a property management/agency type set-up to manage the letting? We've had student wanker neighbours from hell but we didn't contact the bloke who owned the house (because we knew he wouldn't give a shit, based on how little of a shit he gave when he renovated the house) but spoke to the lettings agency (William H Brown). They were actually incredibly helpful and wrote to the Student Wankers, who did calm down a lot after that.

I really sympathise - that stressy tense feeling of knowing that even when it's quiet it's only a matter of time before the noise starts again is just horrendous.

mrscrocopop · 25/01/2017 21:52

I agree with the pp who said that swearing at you and your children is harassment which absolutely is a police matter! If you are feeling g threatened/frightened in your own home then please pursue with the police - that goes beyond noise pollution! You poor things!

Lynnm63 · 25/01/2017 21:56

If they are up to the small hours do they have a lie in on a Saturday or Sunday Morning? If so that'd be an excellent time for diy or your children to practice the violin or recorder.
I second calling the landlord, every single time. If you can't sleep neither should LL. I guess he'll get fed up and find you some nice quiet tenants.

specialsubject · 25/01/2017 21:59

Horrendous.

There is such a thing as a closure order. Perhaps write to the landlord telling him that, and that he would be well advised to start eviction as soon as possible. (Bear in mind that even if they are on a rolling tenancy, this will take months).

If he evicts he can relet immediatley. If there is a closure, he can't. No income.

AdoraBell · 25/01/2017 22:03

As already said, log everything and call LL every time regardless of the hour.

Report to police also mentioning aggressive begaviour and really push for the ASBO. Tell police you and DC are afraid, don't make it sound like merely a noise issue.

LondonKiwiMummy · 25/01/2017 22:05

Just located one of them - full name, employer, etc. However, it's not the one who's been the vilest so I think I'll sit on it for now. I am thinking I am going to ask police round for a chat, show them our log and see what they'll do.

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LondonKiwiMummy · 25/01/2017 22:06

We are afraid! I tried to make light of the screaming at the kids but I'm scared he's going to do it again, so trying to keep them out of the garden.

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seafoodeatit · 25/01/2017 22:07

It depends on where you live, the police here state that noisy neighbours unless they become violent or dangerous are not a police matter and need to be dealt with via the council. They sound like a major pain in the bum, I live next door to students so have to stress every autumn over what the new bunch will be like, one of the main reasons we're moving.

Lynnm63 · 25/01/2017 22:11

You must tell the police. If you're that scared that you aren't using your garden. Tell them he has threatened you and the children and you are afraid for your safety.

Lorelei76 · 25/01/2017 22:12

OP i feel for you
What does the landlord actually say?
Council can take stereos etc if it's proven loud enough
I doubt their work will give two hoots, plenty of people are productive after being up all night clubbing, I used to be one.
I would honestly try and have further chats with landlord
Are they taking drugs? Is the landlord likely to take action if he thinks that?
I know it's hard because they will know it's you so you do need to gird yourself for an escalation. I've been there, the neighbour was obnoxious but not actually scary. I sympathise.