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AIBU?

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To not meet halfway?

48 replies

R2G · 25/01/2017 01:39

Ex and his family keep insisting I am. He's moved 5 hour drive away with no consultation. He rarely comes to see his DC - once every few months - and never books a days holiday to add an extra day in school holidays. He pays a minimum amount via CSA, and has claimed a reduction for travel reflected in that. I do everything and cover all holidays, parties, uniform, parents eve... Everything you can think of and work full time.
They are all saying I should be meeting him halfway to help him see DC. I'm saying no - every few months when I do get a break I don't want to spend 4 hours of each of the days driving up and back down to facilitate his visit.
AIBU? They are saying I'm wrong/selfish.

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dataandspot · 25/01/2017 08:47

I'm not sure I understand the thinking behind people driving their children to see their ex to facilitate the relationship.

Surely if they can't be assed to travel it's a sign they are a shit dad and you are just covering for them and putting off the inevitable hurt to come?

Penfold007 · 25/01/2017 08:51

Any reason why his family couldn't help him out with transport seeing as they do visit him?

Miserylovescompany2 · 25/01/2017 08:53

He can't have it every which way, he's claimed a reduction in his maintenance payments for TRAVEL? He moved a 5 hour drive away...

He out of order putting this on you OP. Telling his children he can't afford to see them is a shit move on his part.

Why is there not a schedule in place? So everyone knows where they stand, especially the children.

WatchingFromTheWings · 25/01/2017 08:55

He moved away so its down to him to travel if he wants to see the kids. If he's had a reduction in csa to cover travel and he's not seeing the kids I'd perhaps look into getting that reversed.

Babasaclover · 25/01/2017 08:56

The more I read his the more mad I get on your behalf. It's not like you can ring the landlord and say can I have a reduction on the rent as I have to pay travel to get my kids to school. You still have all the same outgoings regardless of if he has to pay to travel to see his kids.

Totally see why he is tor ex!

BarbarianMum · 25/01/2017 08:59

He claimed the travel allowance, he can do the travel. Sorry OP he sounds like a shit dad.

redexpat · 25/01/2017 08:59

Stop nagging him to see the dcs.

ohtheholidays · 25/01/2017 09:24

First of get onto the CSA and tell them the truth that he doesn't do the travel that your the one that's been doing that and let them deal with him!

That way he'll have to pay more to you so he'll either step up and start doing the travelling or he'll shut up and so will his family on his say so.

xStefx · 25/01/2017 09:27

Stick to your guns OP, tell him to fuck off! Who cares if his family think your being unreasonable... your not!

DJBaggySmalls · 25/01/2017 09:28

He's claiming an extra travel allowance and paying reduced maintenance. So you should not pay him to see his kids. Flowers

MissMallie · 25/01/2017 09:30

Disengage with his family and refuse to have anything to do with them if they keep moaning about you.

And I totally agree with the others; make him do the travelling as she's the one that's chosen to move away and chosen to claim the reduction in maintenance for travel.

He sounds a selfish fucker.

greeeen · 25/01/2017 11:16

He sounds awful. I would totally disengage with his family and not discuss any plans with them at all. Their opinion shouldn't matter to you at all. Easier said than done sometimes I know.

As he moved away it is completely his responsibility to cover the extra time/costs. If he were a reasonable parent making an effort I would meet him for the children but he isn't.

Any parent who would say something like you described about the other parent clearly has no/very little regard for the children's feelings and is incredibly selfish. That is an awful thing to do.

SavageBeauty73 · 25/01/2017 11:31

No wonder he's an ex!

R2G · 25/01/2017 12:04

Miserylovescompany2 - there is no schedule in place because he refuses to put one in place. I have tried many many times- he wants to come when he wants to come... You need to understand my money situation, you need to understand my work patterns, you need to understand my new wife and step child (he's also claimed a reduction in maintenance for that child saying he is financially responsible for her now too) it's a big ask for them to not have me around for two days.

That's why no schedule.
Aside from reassurance of I am NBU, does anyone have any advice or experience of shit dads just slipping off out of lives and how the children coped?

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hellsbellsmelons · 25/01/2017 12:25

My DD did not cope well at all.
She is sorry about it now but she completely blamed me to start with.
He moved country and always promised to see her every 6 weeks etc...
Never happened.
I had to pick up the pieces of an awful DC going through her teenage years, it was an absolute nightmare!
But..... She hit 16 and it all changed.
She's lovely now at 19.
Works hard is lovely to have around.
Has a good circle of friends now too who look out for her.
She hates her dad. Not surprisingly.
He came back to the UK in September and has only just bothered to visit her.
He's a total loser and she knows it!
It still affects her and she has been referred for therapy.
I know she's a strong girl and will do well but it's hard when you can't really help other than be there for them.

WorldsSmallestPatio · 25/01/2017 12:36

Well I'd just stop him seeing them til he put a schedule in place. They NEED stability, and that means knowing their schedule.

NavyandWhite · 25/01/2017 12:41

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R2G · 25/01/2017 12:48

Thanks hells bells.
Worldssmallest - that is the point I'm at, I'm seriously considering what to do.

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LucklessMonster · 25/01/2017 13:18

My father slipped out of my life when I was old enough to realise how wrong it was that he made no effort to see me. It didn't affect me at all because he wasn't much of a father. It's been 15 years and from the beginning I hardly ever thought about him.

If you think your kids will miss him, maybe grit your teeth and keep pushing until they're old enough to see his true colours. I was 12.

R2G · 25/01/2017 14:44

Thank you it's so sad. It is happening now. I think ex is just waiting for DC to be old enough to to go one train (paid by me of course). It's not just the contact but the mind games I don't want DC subjected to 'well DC you can always get the train if you want to see me.' X

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MrDacresEUSubsidy · 25/01/2017 19:38

So he thinks it's a big ask for his wife and step-child not to see him for 2 days, yet it's perfectly fine for his children not to see him for weeks on end? I can see why he's an Ex!

ohtheholidays · 25/01/2017 22:58

Yes OP,I've been where you are now and honestly my 2 oldest DS's 20 and 18 aren't bothered about they're Father,they call my DH Dad because he is they're Dad.

He's the one who helped look after them when they've been ill and he still does even though they look like and are the size of older men,he's the one who's done the school runs,been to they're parent evenings,helped sort out any problems at school or with friends,he's the one who's celebrated they're birthdays,Easter,Halloween and Christmas with them,listened to them read,helped with homework,bath times and bed times,read to them,played games with them,cooked for them,picked up after them,got them up for school and work,gave them lifts out with they're mates,gave them lifts to work,picked them up when they've been a bit worse for wear of a weekend,he's the man that they laugh with,confide in and moan at.

He's they're Dad,not my ex husband,he never really did anything with our sons when we were together and once we split up he just got worse to be honest.

They're Father now regrets it and try's to have contact with them and we try to encourage them to but it's hit and miss if they can be bothered with him but I did warn him when they were growing up that this day could come,in the end honestly the one that will miss out the most is your ex OP and if he's unlucky enough by the time he's realized that it could be to late for him to do anything about it!

R2G · 26/01/2017 02:03

Holidays - glad to hear a success story I worry about the emotional damage

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